The next album....what do you hope?

[Cherub Angel]

You know, it's never too early to talk about this. It's clear from the residencies that new songs are being written already and that we don't want the band to go away. I don't think they will, but I will be sad if they take the U2 route and release a similar album.

I said this in another thread, but as much as I like Zeitgeist I wish they would have been a bit more adventurous and pushed it more instrumentally. This is my wish for the next record. While this one is hard hitting, I hope there is more guitar craziness on the next record. I like when they let the shit fly and just jam. I'd love to hear stuff like Gossamer.

That aside, I'd like some acoustic stuff. I've maintained that Corgan has a good stripped down acoustic record in his future, further more I think it would be really good.

thoughts and/or complaints about how I'm asking questions about the next record too early?

[brillo998]

needs to be less poppy and more relaxing and hearty.

[BlissedandGone2]

needs to be thoughtful like adore and creative like mcis. should probably rock like sd too. yea not gonna happen.

[Eiki]

definitely think it needs to be more diverse sounding. the only song that sounds noticeably different than the others is pomp and circumstance. needs more "fun" songs too. like someone (i believe it was gossamer) said in another thread, the band seems to be lacking some of the whimsy that it used to have.

[Cherub Angel]

Originally Posted by Eiki

definitely think it needs to be more diverse sounding. the only song that sounds noticeably different than the others is pomp and circumstance. needs more "fun" songs too. like someone (i believe it was gossamer) said in another thread, the band seems to be lacking some of the whimsy that it used to have.

I think some of that "whimsy" is still there in the live performances though with stuff like "Gossamer".....and for some reason I got that same feeling on "Stellar" too.

[caliphornia]

Originally Posted by brillo998

needs to be less poppy and more relaxing and hearty.

perfect.

[dasuitekilla]

The residency songs need more time to evolve and develop their own characteristics but they show great potential. I don't know how many of these songs will actually be recording but if Billy and the gang keep on wrighting at this rate we'll defenitly have lots of good b-sides.

[Eiki]

Originally Posted by Cherub Angel

I think some of that "whimsy" is still there in the live performances though with stuff like "Gossamer".....and for some reason I got that same feeling on "Stellar" too.

you're probably right. i haven't really been listening to any recordings of the recent shows.

and it was boseph who made the comment about the band being more whimsical in the past and not so much anymore (just to give credit where it's due).

[waltermcphilp]

billy should just record the stuff hes writing on tour and release an album to bridge the gap to the next official release.

[mellon_c0llie]

the pumpkins have lost their mischief.

[sniffingchimp]

Quit with over-producing songs to death. Strip things down a bit more.

[Corganist]

Originally Posted by brillo998

needs to be less poppy and more relaxing and hearty.

"Relaxing" is not an adjective that I want attached any Smashing Pumpkins album. It seems to me that what one person finds "relaxing," I'm probably going to find "boring."

That said, I wouldn't be too broken up if Billy dialed things down a little and mixed things up on the next record. I'm not sure I'm quite ready to completely give up the return to rocking that Zeitgeist represents just yet, but a couple of slower, acoustic-y numbers thrown into the mix for variety's sake wouldn't hurt my feelings.

[thurston]

i want something new...

lose the pop and the stupid dress and the lyrics... you know?

i dont want an sd or mcis repeat, i want something new, i think he has it in him...

[Kerosene]

Make good songs.

[smashapumpkin]

it needs to be incredibly sad

[thurston]

Originally Posted by smashapumpkin

it needs to be incredibly sad

but he has jesus now...

i fear the only thing that he could possibly sad about will be increddibly religious or stupid... he can't really handle the heat of these emo bands out there, i dont think he's got it in him to top their "depression"...

unless like james dies or something...

[smashapumpkin]

emo isnt sad its whiny, all BC has to do to be sad is remember his childhood while writing a tune

[thurston]

ah, well, you got me there man...

[wilch]

Another Mellon Collie type variation wise just not as long. maybe 15 songs, 12 songs isnt long enough for an SP album

[smashapumpkin]

Originally Posted by wilch

Another Mellon Collie type variation wise just not as long. maybe 15 songs, 12 songs isnt long enough for an SP album

agreed

[Chuck=Zero]

One thing that needs to change in the next album is the influences that are derived for the music. I like Zeitgeist, it has quite a few really good songs, but most of the tracks lack depth because most of this album is just influenced by current events and the culture of these times. The songs of the album reflect things we hear and see all the time today such as the "doom & gloom" of the future (Doomsday Clock & United States) and our society's obsession with celebrity (Starz). These songs, along with all the others, sound good, but they don't strike you in the same way, emotionally, as everything SP had done before did. One thing we need to realize is that Billy isn't goin' to go back deep into his soul and go back to creating deeply emotional and personal songs like he did before because he's 40 now.

Bottom line, for me, is that I just expect this next album (I'm thinkin' a late '09 release) to be better than Zeitgeist; Zeitgeist met my expectations, and I was pleased with it, but just like many others here, my expectations for it were pretty low.

[Steve Holt]

i hope that there actually is a next album

[Patuquitos]

It should:

1) Be more careless. I think this is the first time in a Pumpkins record where Billy has tried to please his audience on purpose.
2) Be less Zwanish. I mean less "Bring the light" and "(Come On) Let's go!" type of songs.
3) ******* some piano.
4) Recapture AMBITION, aim for a truly timeless record.
5) Take all the necessary time to be made. Don't rush it, Billy. If it takes 5 years, I'll wait.

I know requisite (1) invalidates the rest, but...

[The Melty Man]

The Smashing Pumpkins Unplugged

I'm more into them going back into weirdo prog-rock than trying to sound like their roots.

[Bjarne]

I wish that on the next album, Corgan find the balance between his old style and his new style (something i think was reached in the Chicago songs) and makes togtether with Jimmy the best rock album I have ever heard.

[Steve Holt]

I think it will be "the greatest fucking rock album anyone's ever heard."

[dean_r_koontz]

i'm excited about this next release.

[runnersdialzero]

i agree with a one-disc mellon collie style. more sincere, less self-concious. i think they will be relatively quick with a new album, and i do actually think it will be very good.

the way i see it, they need to get back to 2 essentials.

#1 remember pisces iscariot? it has a very grainy, demo-ish feel, recording in bedrooms and whatnot. it is great. how Judas O sound compared to it? wayyyy over produced.

#2 billy needs to follow tangets. oft-repeated lines in a song are not meant to be the title! i am sure the newest stuff has alot of work to go, but stinkers like come on lets go make me not-so-sure we are dealing with the same guy.

[chris1979]

After heading Billy's newest comments from recent shows I'm just gratefull if there will be a next release.

[deadbirdie]

Arcane night music