Snickers and others to contain animal products

[avian chaos]

Originally Posted by Boycott Graceland

i think becoming a "meatless with occasional indulgences" person really depends on what kind of personality you have. some people can do it. i know that i would get lazy if i made exceptions, so i'm okay with having a label like that. plus, i can't remember the last time i had a craving for anything that there wasn't a meatless substitute for.

tofurkey sauages in my spicy pasta sauce tonight!

Same here, but that's kind of my point. There are all sorts of different personalities out there, so it's kind of silly to try and cram them all under one strictly guidelined blanket of eating habits. Lots of people have different bodies that crave or "need" different things-- it's silly to say or think if everyone stopped eating meat (or dairy or whatever), period, everyone would lead a more healthy life.

I'm also a huge advocate of the meat substitutes. I could go on for days about the first time I ever had seitan. My goodness. I'm not too huge on fake deli meats, though. They always seem to taste and smell like dog food to me. :\

[Boycott Graceland]

Originally Posted by avian chaos

Same here, but that's kind of my point. There are all sorts of different personalities out there, so it's kind of silly to try and cram them all under one strictly guidelined blanket of eating habits. Lots of people have different bodies that crave or "need" different things-- it's silly to say or think if everyone stopped eating meat (or dairy or whatever), period, everyone would lead a more healthy life.

I'm also a huge advocate of the meat substitutes. I could go on for days about the first time I ever had seitan. My goodness. I'm not too huge on fake deli meats, though. They always seem to taste and smell like dog food to me. :\

i know what you mean about the fake deli stuff (i am yet to find a bacon substitute that doesn't look and taste like a beggin' strip), but if you haven't tried the tofurkey brand big sausages, i reccommend you do. they are nicely spiced!

[avian chaos]

I think... I may have had them before, but I'm not sure! I know I've had tofurky hot dogs. I'm not a huge hot dog fan to begin with, but those are tasty mixed together with some baked beans and/or macaroni. Super comfort food to the max! Spicy sausages sound really good, too, especially in some pasta like you mentioned. Mmm.

[murgle]

Originally Posted by avian chaos

I don't know about pharmaceuticals exactly, but I do know that Oil of Olay uses sheep fat or wool grease or something to that extent. Lanolin is the precise term.

It's not just Oil of Olay. Lots of lotions and moisturizers use lanolin.

[Trotskilicious]

i hear your own excrement is a great moisturizer

[brendo_91]

What is Seitan?

Also, Lanolin is extracted from the wool, after the shearing. So it's still using an animal, but you don't have to kill the animal to get it.

[Trotskilicious]

mmm big pink. the only gum with the breath freshening power of ham!

[duovamp]

Snickers bars could contain animal piss semen and blood and if they tasted the same I'd still cram them into my gaping craw as much as possible.

[GlasgowKiss]

"we're going to put animal products in our mars bars."
"well then we're going to boycott them!"
"it isnt really boycott tho if you dont eat any animal products at all."
"sorry my mind is feeble and weak from my diet."

[brendo_91]

a lacto-ovo vegetarian would have no problems eating a mars bar because of the milk, only because of the killing of a calf to get the rennet

[GlasgowKiss]

Was that directed at me? It just doesnt make sense to say you are boycotting something because they've added ingredients you wont eat.

"Im not coming into your house!"
"Yeah... i locked the door"
"I know you locked the door, thats why im boycotting your house"
"I knew when i locked the door you wouldnt be able to get in."
"I can still boycott your house though!"
"Yeah... good for you"

[Luke de Spa]

it makes sense if the outcome isn't inevitably "yeah... good for you". in this case the outcome was "i've changed my mind. door's open". without a public campaign this wouldn't have happened

[GlasgowKiss]

Im pretty disapointed in masterfoods.

[GlasgowKiss]

How i learned to stop worrying about capitalism and just not be such a fat whore as to want to keep buying from companies whose methods i disaprove of.

[j u n e]

Originally Posted by murgle

It's not just Oil of Olay. Lots of lotions and moisturizers use lanolin.

i am allergic to lanolin and it makes shopping for inexpensive personal care products really fucking blow. the last time i neglected to check the ingredient list on a new bottle of conditioner i ended up with a rash on my neck

lanolin's a common thing to be allergic to, but it's a cheap by-product of the wool industry so no one does anything about it.

Laneth.
(See Lanolin.)

Lanogene.
(See Lanolin.)

Lanolin. Lanolin Acids. Wool Fat. Wool Wax.
A product of the oil glands of sheep, extracted from their wool. Used as an emollient in many skin care products and cosmetics and in medicines. An allergen with no proven effectiveness. (See Wool for cruelty to sheep.) Derivatives: Aliphatic Alcohols, Cholesterin, Isopropyl Lanolate, Laneth, Lanogene, Lanolin Alcohols, Lanosterols, Sterols, Triterpene Alcohols. Alternatives: plant and vegetable oils.

Lanolin Alcohol.
(See Lanolin.)

Lanosterols.
(See Lanolin.)

Originally Posted by kristin xp

so where do you go to find out if these products are actually from animals? i've never heard of rennet before, and if i saw it on an ingredients list i wouldn't think it was from an animal.

kristin, i found a site that has a decent list of animal-derived products.

LINK

[yo soy el mejor]

now im hungry but not for chocolate. i havent had breakfast yet and it's 10am. it doesnt sene that bad. ive been drinking glass after glass of orange juice. i go to the fridge and open it and i look for something to eat. nothing looks or sounds good :[ so i just keep pouring more juice. and more juice. my hair looks terrible right now too. i slept in a ponytail and now i look like steven segal in green. im wearing a green shirt and green pants >_> yeah yeah yeah. whatever. actually, potatoes sound really good right now. like papas fritas. or maybe a baked one. yargh.

[yo soy el mejor]

i just ate some potato salad. and then i had a cup of coffee.

wow

[Pantomime]

Oh fuck. I had a Snickers yesterday. I knew about this, but I didn't think it was immediate. Fuck.

[kristin xp]

well i'm sure they didn't kill the calf just for your particular bar. i wonder what the calf to snicker's bar ratio is? maybe you and 5 other guys did it, so you don't have to feel as bad.

[Pantomime]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6673549.stm

Well well! They've reversed the decision!

[ohnoitsbonnie]

Yeah, I remember avoiding brie because it has rennet. :/

[GlasgowKiss]

Originally Posted by Pantomime

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6673549.stm

Well well! They've reversed the decision!

It would have been so beautiful if they'd done the sums right beforehand and just stuck to their guns.

[Effloresce]

Originally Posted by Shapan

now ill buy a snickers with my next burger so i can take care of the entire family

[Lucy Sky Diamonds]

Originally Posted by kristin xp

how easy would it be to find one of those in Mississippi? the jewish family we knew moved to dallas.

I have no clue what the shopping situation is like in Mississippi. I'm willing to bet you wouldn't find kosher or halal meat at Walmart, but you could probably find it in a smaller store or a butcher shop. You might have more luck finding halal then kosher. They have halal chicken and hot dogs in my grocery store, and I don't know of any Muslim families in my neighbourhood (but I know of a large Jewish community in this area).

Eat whatever you want. If you have no moral objections to what's being offered in your grocery store, chow down.

[kristin xp]

i have bad feelings about eating meat from walmart. my parents don't really shop there for food in jackson, but here it's all i got!
we get meat from Little Willies, but i don't know if he's kosher or not. i will ask!

[brendo_91]

Originally Posted by GlasgowKiss

Was that directed at me? It just doesnt make sense to say you are boycotting something because they've added ingredients you wont eat.

"Im not coming into your house!"
"Yeah... i locked the door"
"I know you locked the door, thats why im boycotting your house"
"I knew when i locked the door you wouldnt be able to get in."
"I can still boycott your house though!"
"Yeah... good for you"

That doesn't make sense though. They didn't add an animal product directly to Mars bars, but instead used one in the making thereof.

Imagine if 100 slaves died while making the lock to the house in your example. So the repulsive part is not the locking of the door, but the process gone through to make the lock.

"Im not coming into your house!"
"Yeah... i locked the door"
"I know you locked the door, do you know how many innocent people died to make that lock?"

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by GlasgowKiss

How i learned to stop worrying about capitalism and just not be such a fat whore as to want to keep buying from companies whose methods i disaprove of.

Dr. Fatlove?

[GlasgowKiss]

Originally Posted by brendo_91

That doesn't make sense though. They didn't add an animal product directly to Mars bars, but instead used one in the making thereof.

Imagine if 100 slaves died while making the lock to the house in your example. So the repulsive part is not the locking of the door, but the process gone through to make the lock.

"Im not coming into your house!"
"Yeah... i locked the door"
"I know you locked the door, do you know how many innocent people died to make that lock?"

The point is so few people care about animal rights that they ought to accept the fact that sometimes their spending power is going to be outweighed by the low cost of animal product alternatives.

Sadly masterfoods pussied out and now iv got egg on my face.

[GlasgowKiss]

[brendo_91]

Originally Posted by GlasgowKiss

The point is so few people care about animal rights that they ought to accept the fact that sometimes their spending power is going to be outweighed by the low cost of animal product alternatives.

Sadly masterfoods pussied out and now iv got egg on my face.

Ok, but I think the negative press might have even hurt their sales to meat eaters?