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Old 05-10-2007, 10:36 AM   #1
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Default 'ex why you' recorded in one take?

"X.Y.U"

Song by The Smashing Pumpkins
from the album Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Released 24 October 1995
Recorded March - August 1995
Genre Alternative Rock
Length 7:07
Label Virgin Records
Writer(s) Billy Corgan

X.Y.U is a song by The Smashing Pumpkins featured on their 1995 double album Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. It is one of the heaviest songs on the album along with Fuck You (An Ode To No One) and Tales of a Scorched Earth. The song was recorded in one take, live for the record.[citation needed] The title means "Ex, Why You?"

thanks wikipedia. was it really recorded in one take?

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:38 AM   #2
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tis bullshit

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:39 AM   #3
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its the truth...its a live recording

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:41 AM   #4
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I think it probably features more than 2 guitars. Maybe, like, 20.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:51 AM   #5
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the initial rhythm track is a full band, live track. I remember Billy saying in an interview (Guitar World, maybe?) that it was the first time the band recorded something live all together for a record. He also said it was the loudest thing ever.

But, obviously there's more than just one Billy guitar track and one James track, but I'm guessing only 1 or 2 more guitars was added... you can tell that its not as fat of a sound, i.e. Ruby, but definitely heavy as shit. Also because they're not playing power chords, its all single notes on the 5th and 6th strings, except maybe the high pitched licks and "feedback" solo.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:43 AM   #6
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holy shit thats a comprehensive as fuck wikipedia article on Mellon Collie. I was on wikipedia what seemed like a few months ago reading about the pumpkins and they never had half this shit. - a good read.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:57 AM   #7
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Length 7:07
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:04 PM   #8
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i actually added that live recording thing to wikipedia a while ago...i forget where i heard it tho...im not sure there is more than 2 guitars? there might be

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:06 PM   #9
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thats pretty cool if its true. was always my fav on that album.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:46 PM   #10
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from http://www.starla.org/articles/crsh4_96.htm:

GS: Are you ever inspire to write something by the sound of a certain guitar?

CORGAN" I've pretty much gotten away from looking for a second to inspire me. That one song on the record where that happened is "X.Y.U." There was something about the main lick that was very menacing, so everything I wrote around it goes with that same menace. That's a live take, with the whole band playing the same room, loud as hell.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:51 PM   #11
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COOL!

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:56 PM   #12
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from http://www.starla.org/articles/crsh4_96.htm:

GS: Are you ever inspire to write something by the sound of a certain guitar?

CORGAN" I've pretty much gotten away from looking for a second to inspire me. That one song on the record where that happened is "X.Y.U." There was something about the main lick that was very menacing, so everything I wrote around it goes with that same menace. That's a live take, with the whole band playing the same room, loud as hell.
thats the interview I was referring to; thanks tcm! menacing, indeed.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:17 PM   #13
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James Iha: (TGM Magazine 1995)

"XYU is kind of a disturbing one though. It's the monster inside of the band trying to get out! That's actually the song that we recorded all live-live guitars, live vocals, live bass. We set up all in the same room and it just goes against all the rules of recording no separation at all!"

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:17 PM   #14
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I always thought the same was done on Pissant. You get the same effect of hearing the guitars reverberating in the drum mics.
Can anyone confirm?

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:52 PM   #15
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Pissant

"pissant is one of the few things we have ever recorded live. done during the siamese drean sessions late at night and full of teenage pain. i made up all these lyrics in 10 minutes got my raygun, got me an altitude, can't help feeling somethings wrong with everyone of everyone of you. don't know what it's about don't care rawk. kerry and d'arcy tried to talk me into putting this one the album- and i was tempted, but no i just couldn't see it in there amongst the tall trees. not as much shade or room for the little ones." -BC (PI liner notes)

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:54 PM   #16
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pissant is hello kitty kat right?

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:55 PM   #17
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i love reading things like this. i try to imagine the discussions that took place and wonder what was said that did/didn't influence the decisions.

edit: about the blurb on pissant.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:36 PM   #18
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Billy Corgan '96: Spin

"The funny thing about recording XYU, we all went out to eat about two hours before this session and some of us had a few drinks. Towards the middle of the solo, D'arcy gave me one of those 'I really have to use the bathroom' looks. I just kept wailing away. It turns out she had to change her tampon, and half an hour later, it was too late. She died."

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:38 PM   #19
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haha

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:43 PM   #20
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Billy Corgan '96: Spin

"The funny thing about recording XYU, we all went out to eat about two hours before this session and some of us had a few drinks. Towards the middle of the solo, D'arcy gave me one of those 'I really have to use the bathroom' looks. I just kept wailing away. It turns out she had to change her tampon, and half an hour later, it was too late. She died."
I guess D'arcy won't be in the new lineup.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:45 PM   #21
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Little known fact. Angela from The Office filled D'arcy's place for the next 4 years.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:46 PM   #22
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:48 PM   #23
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No fishnet blouse? Forget her.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:48 PM   #24
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Old 05-10-2007, 04:59 PM   #25
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I knew the vocals were one live take but I didn't know the whole song was. I love how the vocals fade in and out and how imperfect the whole mess is.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:19 PM   #26
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'one take' implies that they used the first attempt, which is probably not true.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:55 PM   #27
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to add to what others say in pissant, billy also talks about pissant on one of the old siamese-dream era interview discs..i think the great pumpkin that never arrived...about how pissant was recorded live and "just fuckin' ROCKS" partly because of the way it was recorded and the energy created by the bank playing together. i think the context was talking about how b-sides are more raw and tend to be more indicative of the true dynamics of the band than traditional studio recordings

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:37 PM   #28
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'one take' implies that they used the first attempt, which is probably not true.
no, one take implies that it was all the same performance, whether from a band or an individual. It could be the first or the fiftieth, but if its all the same performance, its a one-take recording

more than one take might imply that the best pieces of recorded performances were pieced together to make the final recording: say for example jimmy dropped a stick in the second half of a song-recording, but the first half was intensly amazing, instead of losing the whole thing he could pick up from half-way and play on from there, thus making his recording a multiple take one. (I know, bad example, jimmy's recordings are usually one-take ones)

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:52 PM   #29
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it probably implies it to some people though, so it's worth clarifying.

 
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:06 PM   #30
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Who's watching that tonight?

 
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