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Old 03-27-2007, 03:47 AM   #1
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Default Artwork possibility for album (7 deadly sins)

Everyone seems to be obsessed with this 7 deadly sins thing at the moment, and whether it is true or not I'm not sure. As TPQ made clear in London, the cover of the album was being finished by an artist rather than a photographer, and while we know they had spoken to Banksy who was later rejected - this made me think of an exhibition which occurred in LA about the time of TPQ's visit - concerning...

Mercedes Helnwein - Her most recent series of drawings, The Book of Disquiet, based on the seven deadly sins, opened on December 11th, 2006, downtown Los Angeles.

The exhibition got a high profile, and was attended by several celebrities, even having a review written by Jason Lee in Anthem Magazine. Her father Gottfried Helnwein is responsible for working with Marilyn Manson, Rammstein and is a well known and respected artist & photographer...

Mercedes Helnwein Site:

http://mercedeshelnwein.com

Jason Lee Article:

http://mercedeshelnwein.com/html/sta...0Magazine.html

It would be interesting if she was responsible for the artwork for the Album anyway...

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Old 03-27-2007, 04:17 AM   #2
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:28 AM   #3
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Everyone seems to be obsessed with this 7 deadly sins thing at the moment, and whether it is true or not I'm not sure. As TPQ made clear in London, the cover of the album was being finished by an artist rather than a photographer
photography != art, then?

however i dont mind the stuff on her website, and sp2 could certainly do worse...

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:34 AM   #4
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haha, the photography/ artist debate is a good one.. I guess it depends on your deffinition. I do regard Photography as great art... however what I believe was implied was that it would be applied arts for the cover such as drawing/painting etc

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:01 AM   #5
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You have to be a damn good photographer to really be an artist. I like taking pictures and dabbling, but I'm certainly far from being an "artist" with my camera.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:20 AM   #6
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True. But would you say that the cover of Adore is or is not 'art'?

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:28 AM   #7
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Art, in its broadest meaning, is the expression of creativity or imagination, or both -whatever the medium.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:30 AM   #8
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The Adore pics were OK, but nothing to write home about. That's my opinion. Submit your own before flaming.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:46 AM   #9
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Artwork is moot if the music sucks.

Lets hope that's not the case.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:25 AM   #10
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Oh hey her site uses the same unremarkable font (Avenir?) as those cover mock-ups Ihaman threw together

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Old 03-27-2007, 09:31 AM   #11
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where is that banksy info from?

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:37 AM   #12
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In London, TPQ mentioned that there had been discussions with Banksy however in the end nothing came of it. She seemed to have a pretty negative attitude towards him.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:43 AM   #13
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that would have been cool

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:47 AM   #14
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I don't know, he has lost most of his charm... it is starting to wear extremely thin. There was an interesting article recently about how (he claimed) galleries where trying to destroy his guerilla art by selling it at high prices at auction, as well as in editions of prints that your average man on the street could not afford. I haven't made my mind up on him however....

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:57 AM   #15
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Her father was Gilbert Gottfried??

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:00 AM   #16
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The Adore pics were OK, but nothing to write home about. That's my opinion. Submit your own before flaming.
Oh my god, like, those photos, were like, so gay. I mean totally! So anyway, I got these new shoes. I know! Aren't they just adorable!


Ooops.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:04 AM   #17
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Her father was Gilbert Gottfried??
her father is Gottfried Helnwein

http://www.helnwein.com/

Also Yelena Yemchuk's photo's for Adore are beautiful...

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:26 PM   #18
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i love gottfried helnwein though if this weren't his daughter i think she'd be getting totally ripped to shreds. it's only slightly different but for the most part she's doing what he's already done. their style is so similar {and i know style isn't EVERYTHING but it's a large part of your work} and that kind of sucks... but maybe she's trying to make a statement with that. who knows. all i have to say is imo they should get her old man to do it if they really did hire her. or whatever. banksy would've been pretty interesting.
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:27 PM   #19
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Oh hey her site uses the same unremarkable font (Avenir?) as those cover mock-ups Ihaman threw together

It is destiny
I nerded up and think it's Gotham

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:23 PM   #20
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What is art?

Are we art?

Is art art?

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:09 PM   #21
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Why use Porn models when we can use band members and other related peoples?

Lust: Jimmy

Gluttony: D'arcy

Greed: James

Sloth: Courtney Love

Wrath: Evan Dando

Envy: Stephen Malkmus

Pride: Billy

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 10:45 PM   #22
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What is art?

Are we art?

Is art art?
haha that saved by the bell episode was on this morning.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:35 PM   #23
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I believe you are correct, actually. I would also like to apologize to Avenir for calling it "unremarkable." I am sorry Avenir, I will continue to use you extensively in my projects. I just don't see you as being an album cover sort of typeface. You are solid and dependable and clean and a rock album demands something a little crazier. No one is going to develop a shitty toss-off version of you and put it in some Smashing Pumpkins Font Collection.

 
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:53 PM   #24
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i personally won't be satisfied unless they start using comic sans on a regular basis

 
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:08 AM   #25
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Well this is about all the confirmation there can be. Taken from Sasha Grey's Myspace blog from Feb. 13:

"When I got back from SF I also did a photo-shoot for my friend's album that I am very excited about-and I am very proud of him. It was intensely creative. More details in the future…"

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...b2db31734ce8ML

 
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Old 03-28-2007, 01:00 AM   #26
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i feel like fucking a stranger in the ass should be on the list of deadly sins, and i think donnie would agree

 
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Old 03-28-2007, 01:10 AM   #27
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Well this is about all the confirmation there can be. Taken from Sasha Grey's Myspace blog from Feb. 13:

"When I got back from SF I also did a photo-shoot for my friend's album that I am very excited about-and I am very proud of him. It was intensely creative. More details in the future…"

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...b2db31734ce8ML
Not only am I a fan of her anal and ultra-hardcore tendencies, but she has Bowie and Tool references in her photo gallery. I'm really sold on this chick now.

However, I hope to god that this porn star photo shoot thing is nothing more than a stupid joke. Unless there's fisting involved.....

 
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:29 AM   #28
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Why use Porn models when we can use band members and other related peoples?

Lust: Jimmy

Gluttony: D'arcy

Greed: James

Sloth: Courtney Love

Wrath: Evan Dando

Envy: Stephen Malkmus

Pride: Billy
and the end result of all the sinning? jonathan melvoin.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:03 AM   #29
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Oh my god, like, those photos, were like, so gay. I mean totally! So anyway, I got these new shoes. I know! Aren't they just adorable!
I've got too many shoes.

 
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