best netphorian as a human being

[sleeper]

Originally Posted by Mablak

Selfishness is a virtue if you think the purpose of life is happiness

do you think it is?

[Mablak]

Not only happiness . Simply put leading a moral existence which in.cludes attaining happiness. Just because doing what's moral is what you believe you have to do.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by sleeper

yes, i think believing in that is on par in terms of lunacy as believing in some religion

Ok then. but your analogies still suck. and believing in any sort of "god" requires a belief in something in the absence of proof.

and if you're going to reply to this, don't be so goddamn long-winded. i don't feel like sifting through your posts.

[Eulogy]

....and there is quite a bit written down that supports some idea of Jesus Christ being what Christians believe he was. If you think it's all bullshit, that's fine. But there aren't any written accounts of people flying in ancient Rome. There is historical documentation of the life of Jesus Christ. and the difference lies in what writings people choose to accept.

[Trotskilicious]

Eulogy you are so far out of your leauge here. It's like watching a Single A team play the Cardinals. Just stop.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Eulogy you are so far out of your leauge here. It's like watching a Single A team play the Cardinals. Just stop.

you can't just discredit everything I say because of who I am.

There are plenty of intelligent Christians on this planet. For sleeper to say they are all idiots is asinine.

[sleeper]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

Ok then. but your analogies still suck. and believing in any sort of "god" requires a belief in something in the absence of proof.

and if you're going to reply to this, don't be so goddamn long-winded. i don't feel like sifting through your posts.

k

there are degrees of belief

reason can function as proof

proof need not mean physical evidence

[sleeper]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Eulogy you are so far out of your leauge here. It's like watching a Single A team play the Cardinals. Just stop.

dont say stuff like this. hes not dumb and im enjoying this conversation.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by sleeper

k

there are degrees of belief

reason can function as proof

proof need not mean physical evidence

if there were an intelligent practicing Catholic on this board, I'm confident they could present reasoning behind their beliefs. Just because you're not familiar with it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I'll grant you that the vast majority of Christians I have encountered in my life have no reasoning behind anything and only believe what they do because they were raised to. But it's not the case with everyone.

you worthless little scum

[Mablak]

Conceivably we could admit to anything possibly existing, but what's the purpose of believing in God. If I thought he existed it wouldn't change my life in the least

[Lie]

Jesus Christ.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by sleeper

hes not dumb

He's not dumb but he's also 17 or 18 so he doesn't know shit about shit.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

if there were an intelligent practicing Catholic

That is an impossibility.

[Sammiches]

Originally Posted by Lie

Jesus Christ.

Lie, you agree that sleeper is not being facetious here right?

[sleeper]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

....and there is quite a bit written down that supports some idea of Jesus Christ being what Christians believe he was. If you think it's all bullshit, that's fine. But there aren't any written accounts of people flying in ancient Rome. There is historical documentation of the life of Jesus Christ. and the difference lies in what writings people choose to accept.

is the fact that something is written down and believed enough for it be taken as true?

if the claim was only that he exist, there would be no controversy

if the claim is that he was the son of god and that he was resurrected and so on, the burden of proof is very high and simple writing about this isnt at all sufficient grounds for belief

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

He's not dumb but he's also 17 or 18 so he doesn't know shit about shit.

19 now.

...and there's probably a fair amount of evidence in your real life that you don't know shit about shit. but whatever dude.

[sleeper]

Originally Posted by Lie

Jesus Christ.

stay out of this lie, you had your chance!

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Mablak

Conceivably we could admit to anything possibly existing, but what's the purpose of believing in God. If I thought he existed it wouldn't change my life in the least

Actually, whether you believe in god or not doesn't affect you in this life at all but if there is an afterlife it may effect you so you might as well believe in god.

No wonder you're so impressed with Rand.

[Lie]

Originally Posted by Sammiches

Lie, you agree that sleeper is not being facetious here right?

How would I know if he's being facetious? He's been known to have a sense of humor occasionally.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

19 now.

...and there's probably a fair amount of evidence in your real life that you don't know shit about shit. but whatever dude.

No kidding pal, check out my custom title. You're still a cocky little know-nothing.

[Lie]

Originally Posted by sleeper

stay out of this lie, you had your chance!

Don't worry, I intend to.

[Mablak]

Belief in god doesn't mean belief in afterlife, totally different subject

[Lie]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Actually, whether you believe in god or not doesn't affect you in this life at all but if there is an afterlife it may effect you so you might as well believe in god.

For all you know the act of having believed in god might condemn you to everlasting hellfire. It's just as likely a possibility.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by sleeper

is the fact that something is written down and believed enough for it be taken as true?

if the claim was only that he exist, there would be no controversy

if the claim is that he was the son of god and that he was resurrected and so on, the burden of proof is very high and simple writing about this isnt at all sufficient grounds for belief

but that's the whole idea behind the concept of faith. i mean, i often think to myself that almost everybody uses their faith as a crutch, and that maybe that is the whole idea behind Christianity....to give people a crutch when they need one. I still think that it is completely ridiculous to discredit someone's intelligence based on their faith.

As you can tell, I don't have any idea where I stand on issues concerning religion and whatnot. So I consider myself fairly objective. And I think everyone's spirituality is totally personal....and that if people truly have faith in something, there is no reason to call them idiots.

Except mormons and scientologists. they're fucking retarded.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Lie

For all you know the act of having believed in god might condemn you to everlasting hellfire. It's just as likely a possibility.

I've always liked you. You're clever.

[Grumble]

has the thread's original question been answered yet?

i think it would depend on what you mean by "best" and "human being". and probably "as a".

but i'd say ziggy.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

Except mormons and scientologists. they're fucking retarded.

Mormons aren't that different from Catholics. And they're both retarded.

[Mablak]

Consequently if there was an afterlife I'd just call it... regular life and I'd probably live it in the same way

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

No kidding pal, check out my custom title. You're still a cocky little know-nothing.

You really have me all figured out. I think you're the cocky know-nothing in the way you assume you know so much about me as a result of my posts, which never really make any definitive statements anyway. You have much more of a know-it-all attitude than I do.