liberal leadership race - Page 3

RopeyLopey · 11-27-2006, 06:38 PM

I don't get all the sudden cheering for Rae. I mean are people totally oblivious of the chaos he created when being Ontario PM? How can this guy even stay in politics? I don't get it. Someone please explain.

gurr8 · 11-27-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lohengrin

im always embarrassed as a gun-rights proponent when people start arguing against gun bans in terms of overthrowing an oppressive goverment. the army would make a spectacular mess of any civilian or group of civilians who tried to take up arms against it.

you mean like in Iraq?

kiwi · 11-28-2006, 01:46 AM

why does rhino find it necessary to stick his snout into every thread and apply his philosophy 101 enlightenment definition of liberal

damn

Trotskilicious · 11-28-2006, 11:01 AM

lol philosophy 101. k dude. it's not like the term has been watered down as to have become a completely useless definition of political ideals

MrPantyFAce · 11-28-2006, 10:11 PM

What happened to Ashley MacIsaac. Canada would be so awesome if won..... Helters Celtic was an awesome album.

phaedrus · 11-30-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RopeyLopey

I don't get all the sudden cheering for Rae. I mean are people totally oblivious of the chaos he created when being Ontario PM? How can this guy even stay in politics? I don't get it. Someone please explain.

you're overstating. he made a lot of fiscal decissions based on bad economic advice. ontario dove into recession while he was in power, but definitely not because of his actions. any premier would seemingly have left the province "in chaos" if they were in power at that time.

undeniably the man is very intelligent and a great speaker. it has been leaked that the Conservatives think he is the greatest threat to their power. he has the power to unite the left. i would love to see him at the head of the liberal party, and indeed, as leader of our nation.

RopeyLopey · 11-30-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by phaedrus

you're overstating. Any premier would seemingly have left the province "in chaos" if they were in power at that time.

well, possibly I do as I wasn't around here at that time, but still I do believe there's a bit of difference between 'chaos' and 10 billion provinical deficit. He can be a great speaker, intelligent and all, but once you're a PM, you take a responsibility for everything. It doesn't mean that if you don't have a clue about economics, you are automatically excused for what happened with that. He picks up the people who tell him what to do.

I mean, 10 billion deficit, come on.

spring · 12-01-2006, 09:13 PM

i don't think he's denying any of the mistakes he has made, Jan.

and i agree with phaedrus, although i wish i had more info to support those facts. he picked his cabinet and all that, of course, so he is responsible for everything, but... i think that at the time he lacked the experience (that he now has) to do better.

Lucy Sky Diamonds · 12-02-2006, 03:43 PM

So, Dion or Ignatieff?

spring · 12-02-2006, 06:04 PM

i'm really hoping it will be Ignatieff now

alisonmonster · 12-02-2006, 07:09 PM

its dion

RopeyLopey · 12-02-2006, 07:15 PM

whoa, who would have thought.

phaedrus · 12-02-2006, 07:26 PM

i think i seriously underestimated the influence of Quebec.
unfortunately i think he was the least likely candidate to beat Harper. i still like him better than Ignatieff though.

RopeyLopey · 12-02-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by phaedrus

unfortunately i think he was the least likely candidate to beat Harper. i still like him better than Ignatieff though.

do you really think so? I mean he seems to be quite decent, serious guy who knows what is he doing. And he is from Quebec (again).

Andrew_Pakula · 12-03-2006, 11:34 AM

I sort of saw this coming as both Rae and Ignatieff had a lot of baggage with them. Dion was the only real respectable and qualified one there and I think the Liberals thought twice about electing Rae or Ignatieff.

phaedrus · 12-03-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RopeyLopey

do you really think so? I mean he seems to be quite decent, serious guy who knows what is he doing. And he is from Quebec (again).

yeah, i guess the Quebec angle should give the liberals a bit of an edge. he might also steal some NDP support because of his strong environmental support. i just don't think he's going to get the support from the west that the liberals need to win back a majority.

Effloresce · 12-03-2006, 02:31 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's to my understanding that people from Quebec want to be separate, yet, at the same time, continue to share Canada's currency, health care, and methods of taxation? I do not say this to piss off any French Canadians, but how can you truly be independent if you still want those things?

Trotskilicious · 12-03-2006, 03:31 PM

It's called local autonomy, Eff. Like Scotland or Catalonia.

Effloresce · 12-03-2006, 03:54 PM

Oh, right. I was under the impression that they were trying to be unlike somewhere like Scotland but truly be separate from the rest of Canada in every way, so what I previously mentioned, when I read about it, confused me. Not so much now... but it'll be interesting to see if they can actually get what they want.

phaedrus · 12-03-2006, 05:11 PM

the biggest winner of the liberal leadership race: Kennedy

MrPantyFAce · 12-05-2006, 03:11 PM

Dion seems like he's alright.

Rockin' Cherub · 12-05-2006, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

lol philosophy 101. k dude. it's not like the term has been watered down as to have become a completely useless definition of political ideals

no offence, but isn't change in the meaning of political terms quite a common phenomenon? like, didn't "republican" once stand for anti-racism and anti-catholicism while now they're pretty much the most important regressive force out there?

The Omega Concern · 12-06-2006, 12:28 AM

Geddy Lee for President!

MrPantyFAce · 12-06-2006, 11:07 AM

While i still think belinda is divine. I feel myself like environment minister too. i am torn.

https://secure.ewebspot.com/upload/y...res_casual.jpg

phaedrus · 12-06-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPantyFAce

While i still think belinda is divine.

my mom sent me an e-mail that had a subject line about a new leaf blower. i opened it expecting to find an ad from a hardware store or an article about some new gizmo, but instead found find Belinda Stronach.

http://www.thestar.com/images/thesta...ronach_300.jpg

MrPantyFAce · 12-06-2006, 11:38 AM

THATS IS UTTER BULLSHIT. DOMI COULD NEVER GET A GIRL LIKE BELINDA. THE MALICOUS RUMORS ARE FALSE...

I'll admit that shes not as hot as she was but i'd still marry her because theres a love there. I like here new dark hair.

rocksteady · 12-06-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi

why does rhino find it necessary to stick his snout into every thread and apply his philosophy 101 enlightenment definition of liberal

damn

because nobody knows what it means.

RopeyLopey · 12-06-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPantyFAce

While i still think belinda is divine. I feel myself like environment minister too. i am torn.

too bad her politics would make me puke all over her

MrPantyFAce · 12-06-2006, 12:08 PM

i would let belinda, ambores, and avril puke on me.

RopeyLopey · 12-06-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPantyFAce

i would let belinda, ambores, and avril puke on me.

hands off Avril, newfie!

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11-27-2006, 06:38 PM	#61
RopeyLopey Braindead Posts: 15,483	I don't get all the sudden cheering for Rae. I mean are people totally oblivious of the chaos he created when being Ontario PM? How can this guy even stay in politics? I don't get it. Someone please explain.

11-28-2006, 01:46 AM	#63
kiwi Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,197	why does rhino find it necessary to stick his snout into every thread and apply his philosophy 101 enlightenment definition of liberal damn

11-28-2006, 11:01 AM	#64
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	lol philosophy 101. k dude. it's not like the term has been watered down as to have become a completely useless definition of political ideals

11-28-2006, 10:11 PM	#65
MrPantyFAce Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,781	What happened to Ashley MacIsaac. Canada would be so awesome if won..... Helters Celtic was an awesome album.

12-01-2006, 09:13 PM	#68
spring die 'til it doesn't hurt Posts: 7,475	i don't think he's denying any of the mistakes he has made, Jan. and i agree with phaedrus, although i wish i had more info to support those facts. he picked his cabinet and all that, of course, so he is responsible for everything, but... i think that at the time he lacked the experience (that he now has) to do better.

12-02-2006, 03:43 PM	#69
Lucy Sky Diamonds Braindead Location: No Canada like French Canada, it's the best Canada in ze land. Posts: 16,905	So, Dion or Ignatieff?

12-02-2006, 06:04 PM	#70
spring die 'til it doesn't hurt Posts: 7,475	i'm really hoping it will be Ignatieff now

12-02-2006, 07:09 PM	#71
alisonmonster Minion of Satan Location: gasoline alley Posts: 9,019	its dion

12-02-2006, 07:15 PM	#72
RopeyLopey Braindead Posts: 15,483	whoa, who would have thought.

12-02-2006, 07:26 PM	#73
phaedrus Minion of Satan Location: up there somewhere Posts: 8,014	i think i seriously underestimated the influence of Quebec. unfortunately i think he was the least likely candidate to beat Harper. i still like him better than Ignatieff though.

12-03-2006, 02:31 PM	#77
Effloresce Banned Posts: 5,018	Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's to my understanding that people from Quebec want to be separate, yet, at the same time, continue to share Canada's currency, health care, and methods of taxation? I do not say this to piss off any French Canadians, but how can you truly be independent if you still want those things?

12-03-2006, 03:31 PM	#78
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	It's called local autonomy, Eff. Like Scotland or Catalonia.

12-03-2006, 03:54 PM	#79
Effloresce Banned Posts: 5,018	Oh, right. I was under the impression that they were trying to be unlike somewhere like Scotland but truly be separate from the rest of Canada in every way, so what I previously mentioned, when I read about it, confused me. Not so much now... but it'll be interesting to see if they can actually get what they want.

12-03-2006, 05:11 PM	#80
phaedrus Minion of Satan Location: up there somewhere Posts: 8,014	the biggest winner of the liberal leadership race: Kennedy

12-05-2006, 03:11 PM	#81
MrPantyFAce Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,781	Dion seems like he's alright.

12-06-2006, 12:28 AM	#83
The Omega Concern Banned Location: stay, far, away Posts: 8,997	Geddy Lee for President!

12-06-2006, 11:07 AM	#84
MrPantyFAce Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,781	While i still think belinda is divine. I feel myself like environment minister too. i am torn. https://secure.ewebspot.com/upload/y...res_casual.jpg

12-06-2006, 11:38 AM	#86
MrPantyFAce Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,781	THATS IS UTTER BULLSHIT. DOMI COULD NEVER GET A GIRL LIKE BELINDA. THE MALICOUS RUMORS ARE FALSE... I'll admit that shes not as hot as she was but i'd still marry her because theres a love there. I like here new dark hair.

12-06-2006, 12:08 PM	#89
MrPantyFAce Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,781	i would let belinda, ambores, and avril puke on me.