i just got an ounce for $70

[FearFactory]

Originally Posted by wally

you're talking to a guy who has had enough alcohol in his life to fill a can of miller lite and never done any drugs.

you probably don't want to have this conversation with me.

alcohol's a drug, buddy.

[wally]

thanks sherlock

[FearFactory]

don't be a jerk, old man. I was just stating a fact.

[wally]

I'm not being a jerk young one.

[FearFactory]

well then jerk me off!

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by FearFactory

those are california prices, though. you have to realize that the price is going to be different wherever you go. some people can get it cheaper because they've been going through the same dealer for such a long time.

Unless you're actually going through the grower, I don't think that's possible. Any of the people I know who get it from some other guy, it all depends on what kind of a deal they're getting. But dammit if he grows the shit he damn well give you some for a good deal if you're a long time customer!

And although I'm sure we've had this argument before (I guess I forgot since I'm a stoner)...but it's the same price here. Perhaps that has something to do with Chicago being an expensive city for most anything - but I haven't heard of anywhere where prices are any cheaper than that on average.

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by wally

I've always wondered if drug users spend more time doing their drugs or researching reasons to convince others they aren't dipshits for doing them.

I think researching anything you do to your body is a pretty smart thing. I also think it's interesting to see more and more studies being done on the positive and real affects of these drugs - especially since it really does prove that we're not dipshits for doing them. And by them I mean psychedelics.

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by wally

you're talking to a guy who has never done any drugs.

So really you can't possibly be in any position to say that people who do drugs are "dipshits". Not only do you probably know nothing about them past what we've stated in this thread, but you've never even experienced them for yourself.

I really, really hate that.

[GlasgowKiss]

Dipshit.

[FearFactory]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Unless you're actually going through the grower, I don't think that's possible. Any of the people I know who get it from some other guy, it all depends on what kind of a deal they're getting. But dammit if he grows the shit he damn well give you some for a good deal if you're a long time customer!

And although I'm sure we've had this argument before (I guess I forgot since I'm a stoner)...but it's the same price here. Perhaps that has something to do with Chicago being an expensive city for most anything - but I haven't heard of anywhere where prices are any cheaper than that on average.

well, generally the prices are the same.. but there are differences, and it could of course depend on several different factors, including how well you know your dealer and the quality. apparently the shit is cheap in Canada, and high quality, though I have yet to verify that for myself. about the best price I can get is $40 for an 1/8th, unless I buy in bulk, which can usually be brought down to $280-300 an ounce or around a grand for a QP. not that I have that much fucking money to spend.

something else to consider is how it's being grown. most growers want the most yield, and will therefore use chemical nutrients.. and who knows what kind of effect that can have on your lungs? if I had my way, I would ONLY buy from people who use organic nutrients... which I'm sure you're aware gives the weed a much better taste. there's nothing worse than taking a hit and tasting something metallic.

[I_was_aborted]

Hey fearfactory, just incase you don't know people who use chemical nutrients don't always produce herb that tastes bad. As long as the plants are flushed properly for the right amount of time(which any GOOD grower would do) you won't be left with any foreign taste. If you're using organic nutrients and don't flush the plants properly it'll still taste like shit. Also one of the biggest factors in the taste of marijuana is the curing process.

As far as pricing, it doesn't matter how close of friends you are to your dealer. The two biggest factors are how far down the chain you are from the grower and how much the grower asks for his initial price. This usually depends on the quanity they grow. After all, if you're only pulling 6 ounces per harvest you're going to ask more for those 6 ounces than say if you pull 16 ounces per harvest.

Canada is interesting as far as weed goes. I know that they have a lot more midgrade herb around than in the states. Usually in the states its either schwag, decent shwag or kind bud. I'm sure you've run across what people call B.C bud or Beasters. This is weed that won't quite sell for 50 or 60 an eighth but it sure as hell isn't schwag. The quality though between some B.C. bud and some primo kind bud is pretty obvious. Still though, all quality levels of herb are cheaper in Canada because so there are so many more growers there.

[mirrar]

i just had to poke my nose in here and say that i get an ounce of yummy weed, almost always several different kinds to choose from for 170 canadian. this guy also sells weed cookies for three dollars that i won't even touch anymore because the last ones made me die they were so strong. and brownies and birthday cake! heh.

[I_was_aborted]

Can you show us a picture of the yummy weed for $170? I'm being honest and curious, I'd just like to see it. Not to trash talk or anything, I just like looking at pictures of nice herb.

[Karl Connor]

i would think that the chemicals would just affect the germanation process thus by the time its grown they'd be absorbed and metabolized well into the plant and not much of a danger ... virtually all fruits and vegetables at the supermarket are "enhanced with chemicals" and there arent any problems there

[mirrar]

Originally Posted by I_was_aborted

Can you show us a picture of the yummy weed for $170? I'm being honest and curious, I'd just like to see it. Not to trash talk or anything, I just like looking at pictures of nice herb.

no. i don't have internet at my house :/

[I_was_aborted]

No worries, just wonderin'. Smoke a bowl for me, I'm wasting away at work for the next 2 hours.

Well, I guess since you're on the internet that would mean you aren't at home so maybe someone will smoke a bowl for both of us.

[Karl Connor]

heres some of mine from a few months ago, if anybody's interested
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...dell/drugs.jpg

[mirrar]

i'm actually in a university lab, so i won't be smoking any bowls at the moment either. when i get home though.

[mirrar]

randall i think you smoked peat moss.

[I_was_aborted]

Originally Posted by Randall Sandell

heres some of mine from a few months ago, if anybody's interested
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...dell/drugs.jpg

That looks decent. Do you smoke much anymore? Just curious, how much really good herb is available in Texas? I've got some friends there who have a hard time finding any because they mostly just find imported brick weed. Then again, that shit is dirt cheap so they usually don't mind smoking it.

[barden]

How much is an Ounce on a metric scale?
In grams... How many grams to an ounce?

[I_was_aborted]

28. Is most weed in South Africa grown outdoors? What are the prices like there in American dollars and what is the quality generally like?

In high times they used to have a guide where people would submit the herb they had purchased along with the quality, price and area it was purchased in. Kinda funny to see a street price guide but it was informative. I wonder if they still have it.

[Karl Connor]

yeah i'm smoking regularly again i suppose ... i personally think the quality varies alot. even from the most reliable sources i'll get really good stuff one day and pathetic dirt the next. but i admit i really dont know any growers so that may be why.

prices are usually standard unless some really good stuff comes in the town then you get taxed on it

[FearFactory]

well, you'll buy an ounce and it'll have 28 grams in it, but technically it's closer to 28.5. it's just that 28 divides much easier into 1/8ths than 28.5.

[barden]

Originally Posted by Randall Sandell

i would think that the chemicals would just affect the germanation process thus by the time its grown they'd be absorbed and metabolized well into the plant and not much of a danger ... virtually all fruits and vegetables at the supermarket are "enhanced with chemicals" and there arent any problems there

Hydro!

[I_was_aborted]

Hey, Hydro can be organic or non-organic. Generally hydro is a little faster but with the right soil grow your plants can be just as good or better. It is more dependent upon the right environmental conditions, proper nutrients/care for the plant and the genetics of the herb you're growing.

Nutrients have to be fed to the plants throughout their life cycles. These chemicals are used to produce food for the plant and also help the plant produce new leaves or buds, depending on if you're in the vegetation or flowering period. You also use different nutries depending on which period your in. I'm not sure without checking but I believe during vegetation the plants will need more nitrogen but then when the plant goes into flowering you'll want less nitrogen and more potassium. These chemicals make their way into the buds. When you flush a plant that means you only feed it straight water for the last 2 to 4 weeks of its lifetime. This will flush the chemicals and nutrients from the herb and make for a cleaner tasting smoke.

[barden]

Most of what I buy is grown indoor hydroponically.

I get shit pretty cheap, since I have the right friends and such from when I was selling and growing and things.

However, we have options. Here’s a fun news article my dad sent me a while ago. Prices aren’t all 100% accurate, but pretty close -

After hours of scrambling over rugged mountain terrain, Swaziland's drug squad finally find what they're looking for: a secret field packed with some of the world's strongest dagga.

Prized for its potency across the world, "Swazi Gold" is grown in the remote northern mountains of this tiny African kingdom, then smuggled into neighbouring South Africa and on to Europe and North America.

Police in impoverished Swaziland say that despite dousing acres of towering plants with deadly insecticide, they are losing the war on dagga to dirt-poor peasants bent on protecting their most lucrative crop.

A handful of drug lords buy and sell Swaziland's marijuana - the world's most popular illegal drug - but most of the growing is done by subsistence farmers desperate for cash after four years of drought and hefty job cuts.

According to Swaziland's Council Against Drug and Alcohol Abuse, about 70 percent of small farmers in the Hhohho region, where mountainous terrain makes growing maize tough, turn to dagga.

The world's top law enforcement agency, Interpol, says Southern Africa, including Swaziland, has the potential to overtake key dagga producers like Morocco, and already sends major shipments to the west.

Like thousands of other peasant farmers in Hhohho, a woman who identifies herself only as Khanyesile ekes out a living from 30 limp dagga plants hidden in thick undergrowth behind her rickety shack.

"My husband died and I lost my job at the local furniture factory - I needed money to feed my five children and send them to school," she says from beneath a flowered headscarf.

Khanyesile, 45, has been jailed and fined for her dagga. Police have twice sprayed and burned her tiny fields and once local thieves stole the entire crop just before harvesting.

But a patchy income from selling shiny stones to tourists at the side of the road is not enough to feed her family, and she has no intention of giving up her plants despite the threat of up to six years in prison.

"You can't get money for maize... and it is difficult to grow, but a man from South Africa comes every month to buy my dagga," she says.

Most of her neighbours, Khanyesile says, also grow dagga, and homesteads club together to minimise risk for the man from South Africa, who arrives on foot across the mountains.

"I don't understand why the police want to stop us growing dagga - it is the only way we can make money."

Police say that although peasants like Khanyesile are harmless enough, some of the bigger growers are swapping dagga for illegal firearms from South Africa and Mozambique, prompting a rise in gun crime in this sleepy nation.

Armed with a couple of assault rifles and several litres of insecticide, Dlamini's drug squad scours the region daily for dagga plantations in a bid to contain the industry.

"Look, they've left traces," shouts Dlamini to his colleagues as they tramp through the forest, holding up the distinctive five-speared leaf of a dagga plant.

But he knows that even if they find the field, the country is teeming with thousands more.

The bigger growers penetrate the country's furthest-flung valleys, hiking deep into the forests across crocodile-infested rivers to avoid police.

"It is everywhere. At every stream or river the banks are full of dagga," says squad member Hoare, decked out in waterproof overalls with a spray gun in his hand.

Swazi marijuana, which is said to be more potent due to the soil and weather conditions, fetches a handsome premium.

On the streets of Johannesburg, Swazi Gold is sold in 30g small bank bags, or "bankies", for R70 apiece, while Amsterdam coffee shops charge the equivalent of around R50 for one gram.

Khanyesile says she gets around R1 000 ($166) for 2kg.

Police have seized 285kg of dagga so far this year and destroyed roughly 197 hectares - a fraction of the total, says Albert Mkhatshwa, head of the national drugs unit.

Small-fry dealers smuggle out their stash on foot while the big guys find myriad ways to sneak their goods past customs. Police recently stopped a giant wooden fish headed for Italy packed with at least 30kg of compressed weed.

But many experts say police are wasting their time, since dagga is embedded in Swazi culture, smoked for centuries by farmers and used for medicine by traditional healers.

Dlamini says even the chief of his home village would smoke a dagga pipe twice a day as an accepted part of Swazi tradition.

And some local health workers argue dagga could help in the fight against HIV and Aids, which affects around 40 percent of the adult population.

"In terms of HIV, sometimes it can boost the immune system," says Madzabudzabu Kunene, who co-ordinates the Swaziland Aids Support Organisation in Hhohho.

"It can help in boosting appetite, that is proven." - Reuters




And yeah, people will say things like, ‘These peasants don’t know how to grow properly’ and such. But hey, S.A. is home to one of the only natural weed belts in the world! It grows beautifully here. Countless friends have thrown seeds out their window after cleaning (if they have seeds) and a few weeks later a healthy plant is growing, with no water, no attention, nothing. It really thrives here.

But yeah, you can get some pretty bad quality stuff too. Lots of chancers. Just need to know where to go and who to speak too! Buying a 10gram bag of Skunk for less then $10 is good fun. Driving into the middle of Brixton to get it ins’t always as fun! But if you’re up for the trip, and willing to take the risk, it’s there for the taking.


I was selling grams for around $8 for Hydro Chron.

But you get the really expensive stuff too. A friend lives on a plot out in the bush, and if you take the 2 hour drive you buy some really purdy stuff. I get it quite cheap, but he’s no fool, and knows his stuff is worth a fair penny.

[FearFactory]

$8 a gram? that's about half of what it would cost here.

[I_was_aborted]

I find it strange when people speak of hydro like the fact it was grown hydroponically makes it better. I'm not saying that you're doing this, just many people do. Some of the best herb I've smoked was all organic and grown in dirt indoors. Growing hydro, like I said earlier, really only has an advantage as far as speed goes. Even then the end product is only maybe a month ahead of growing in soil. Both each have their own drawbacks such as hydros high matienence, ph/nutrient issues, failure of equipment(water pump, leaks, ect) and soils issues with pests, root rot and the hassle of dealing with so much dirt. I have no preference to either as long as they are done right but I just find it strange that hydro has become synonymous with high quality. Especially when people really have no idea if it was grown in soil or water.

[Mayfuck]

Originally Posted by I_was_aborted

That looks decent. Do you smoke much anymore? Just curious, how much really good herb is available in Texas? I've got some friends there who have a hard time finding any because they mostly just find imported brick weed. Then again, that shit is dirt cheap so they usually don't mind smoking it.

LOL