sad to say that the majority of SP fans have no respect for SP (band/members) - Page 4

Effloresce · 05-23-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MajesticFlow

Corgan IS the Smashing Pumpkins. You're in denial if you even come close to thinking otherwise.

So where does Jimmy fit into all of this? Billy knew he was missing something crucial in 1998, he couldn't have possibly went on any longer without Jimmy.

Jimmy has also had a lot of influence on how songs would be played initially, or by means of a revision.

MajesticFlow · 05-23-2006, 11:13 PM

I would say it's more for the live act than actual studio (as far as bringing jimmy back in 99). That's just my opinion.
Face it, the songs are 10x better live and it can only help to have a powerful drummer.

MajesticFlow · 05-23-2006, 11:14 PM

MajesticFlow · 05-23-2006, 11:14 PM

wHATcOLOR · 05-23-2006, 11:16 PM

MajesticFlow, i think i may have told you this before, but i like your username because for me it conjures images of golden showers

DeviousJ · 05-24-2006, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chambertrain

Find me a respectful and popular Forum, and I'll gladly leave.

http://www.blamonet.com/vb/

Starla · 05-24-2006, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky Day Spa

to the best of my knowledge he never endorsed "psychic" charlatans' self-help books until 2004

Didn't he talk about seeing a psychic on "Storytellers".

Starla · 05-24-2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by benedictvs
just take bands like beatles, ... they always had a solid, positive, trustful and respectful fan base

He had some crazy people who were fans. Charles Manson believed the White Album was written for him.

ZEROpumpkins · 05-24-2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by To Starla

He had some crazy people who were fans. Charles Manson believed the White Album was written for him.

That Manson guy really cracks me up.

Chambertrain · 05-24-2006, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DeviousJ

http://www.blamonet.com/vb/

Nice try, but looks too gay, kinda what you look like. And not so popular, and maybe i should have added decent.

ChristHimself! · 05-24-2006, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chambertrain

Nice try, but looks too gay, kinda what you look like. And not so popular, and maybe i should have added decent.

try stormfront.org's forum

DeviousJ · 05-24-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chambertrain

Nice try, but looks too gay, kinda what you look like. And not so popular, and maybe i should have added decent.

Seriously, it's your kind of place

http://www.blamonet.com/vb/

tcm · 05-24-2006, 07:24 AM

can't you see it's indecent? like what you look like.

Ugly · 05-24-2006, 02:37 PM

Why should I respect the members of the Smashing Pumpkins? I give *them* money for entertainment. If anything, they should respect me.

duovamp · 05-24-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly

Why should I respect the members of the Smashing Pumpkins? I give *them* money for entertainment. If anything, they should respect me.

Bam.

Travis Meeks · 05-24-2006, 05:41 PM

true...I don't owe Bill a thing

KAT · 05-24-2006, 06:55 PM

hahaahahahahah this thread is awesome

Floppy Nono · 05-24-2006, 07:09 PM

awesome like some sweet apple pie with ice cream!!

i don't know where this thread is going/went to....either way...who likes apple pie and ice cream?

and yeah...post 666 has to be about fucking apple pie and ice cream...DEAL WITH IT OR DAMN YOUR EYES!!

RenewRevive · 05-25-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Osmond

fancy yourself? are you some kind of brit or what?

They let Brits on here!

RenewRevive · 05-25-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by To Starla

He had some crazy people who were fans. Charles Manson believed the White Album was written for him.

But was he wrong?

Discuss.

duovamp · 05-25-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RenewRevive

But was he wrong?

Discuss.

He was correct.

pete · 05-25-2006, 12:26 PM

James is not a puppet! He proved that with 'Let it Come Down'.

Kahlo · 05-25-2006, 02:29 PM

No he proved that the best he could do was sub-par, and that SP didn't really need him.

Kahlo · 05-25-2006, 02:30 PM

No he proved that the best he could do was sub-par, and that SP didn't really need him.

Corgan Rules · 05-26-2006, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DeviousJ

Maybe if he stopped making music that sucked the fans would like it

What are you talking about ? You are negative! Billy has put out too much amazing work for you to say that shit. How can you complain with his work compared to other artists? Billy kicks all their asses! He hasn't made one bad album so far, and that's awesome!!

Corgan Rules · 05-26-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Effloresce

So where does Jimmy fit into all of this? Billy knew he was missing something crucial in 1998, he couldn't have possibly went on any longer without Jimmy.

Jimmy has also had a lot of influence on how songs would be played initially, or by means of a revision.

True, but also remember Adore. HIs best album (Adore) was made without Jimmy. Jimmy is amazing though.

Corgan Rules · 05-26-2006, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

No he proved that the best he could do was sub-par, and that SP didn't really need him.

Absolutely correct!! Winner!!

DeviousJ · 05-27-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Corgan Rules

What are you talking about ? You are negative! Billy has put out too much amazing work for you to say that shit. How can you complain with his work compared to other artists? Billy kicks all their asses! He hasn't made one bad album so far, and that's awesome!!

Correct! He made two bad albums.

Kahlo · 05-27-2006, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Corgan Rules

Absolutely correct!! Winner!!

I love you Corgan Rules

selection7 · 05-27-2006, 03:27 AM

You can't watch all those old interviews and articles without understanding Billy cared *deeply* about Jimmy. At the time, the Pumpkins kicked Jimmy out of the group as a wake up call, to save his life and get him out of the crazy rock star lifestyle that was killing him. It worked (and seems to have worked 3 years later with D'arcy...though that may have been more consentual).

Although Billy has said if he had it to do over again he'd just wait it out while Jimmy got help, remember, that's from the perspective of several years later when Jimmy was sober. So later he's feeling confident enough that he's wondering, hmmm, kicking Jimmy out and continuing w/o him was the worst thing I could have done for the Pumpkins...maybe if I could do it again, I'd just postpone the tour while he got cleaned up. But Jimmy had been to rehab before and had been a hardcore drug user for years at that point, with so many second chances and so much worrying on the part of the other Pumpkins that at the time (1996), Billy felt getting rid of Jimmy was the last resort. Since it was semi-perminent (they didn't tell Jimmy they planned on bringing him back), Corgan wasn't just gonna let the band rot for two years...so he eventually continued the tour and made Adore.

I read alot of silliness in this topic that I could shrug off, but let's please not spin that whole 1996 overdose thing into "Billy was being selfish". That's just stuipid. Remeber, a young man died that day. As a previous post said, it's not like Jimmy was caught with a dimebag.

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MajesticFlow Banned Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 532	oh

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MajesticFlow Banned Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 532	well

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05-23-2006, 11:13 PM	#92
MajesticFlow Banned Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 532	I would say it's more for the live act than actual studio (as far as bringing jimmy back in 99). That's just my opinion. Face it, the songs are 10x better live and it can only help to have a powerful drummer.

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wHATcOLOR THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Location: whip that's for stealing !! whip And that's for getting blood on my whip !!! \|\| MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID ROCK!! Posts: 44,827	MajesticFlow, i think i may have told you this before, but i like your username because for me it conjures images of golden showers

05-24-2006, 07:24 AM	#103
tcm Braindead Location: Le look de Corgan Posts: 17,924	can't you see it's indecent? like what you look like.

05-24-2006, 05:41 PM	#106
Travis Meeks Rambling on Posts: 20,562	true...I don't owe Bill a thing

05-24-2006, 06:55 PM	#107
KAT Puleeento Location: Santiago of Mexico, Europe >++++(°> Posts: 3,981	hahaahahahahah this thread is awesome

05-24-2006, 07:09 PM	#108
Floppy Nono Socialphobic Posts: 12,754	awesome like some sweet apple pie with ice cream!! i don't know where this thread is going/went to....either way...who likes apple pie and ice cream? and yeah...post 666 has to be about fucking apple pie and ice cream...DEAL WITH IT OR DAMN YOUR EYES!!

05-25-2006, 12:26 PM	#112
pete Apocalyptic Poster Location: London Posts: 1,597	James is not a puppet! He proved that with 'Let it Come Down'.

05-25-2006, 02:29 PM	#113
Kahlo Beffen separatist. Location: Lovephoria Posts: 16,321	No he proved that the best he could do was sub-par, and that SP didn't really need him.

05-25-2006, 02:30 PM	#114
Kahlo Beffen separatist. Location: Lovephoria Posts: 16,321	No he proved that the best he could do was sub-par, and that SP didn't really need him.

05-27-2006, 03:27 AM	#120
selection7 Demi-God Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 256	You can't watch all those old interviews and articles without understanding Billy cared deeply about Jimmy. At the time, the Pumpkins kicked Jimmy out of the group as a wake up call, to save his life and get him out of the crazy rock star lifestyle that was killing him. It worked (and seems to have worked 3 years later with D'arcy...though that may have been more consentual). Although Billy has said if he had it to do over again he'd just wait it out while Jimmy got help, remember, that's from the perspective of several years later when Jimmy was sober. So later he's feeling confident enough that he's wondering, hmmm, kicking Jimmy out and continuing w/o him was the worst thing I could have done for the Pumpkins...maybe if I could do it again, I'd just postpone the tour while he got cleaned up. But Jimmy had been to rehab before and had been a hardcore drug user for years at that point, with so many second chances and so much worrying on the part of the other Pumpkins that at the time (1996), Billy felt getting rid of Jimmy was the last resort. Since it was semi-perminent (they didn't tell Jimmy they planned on bringing him back), Corgan wasn't just gonna let the band rot for two years...so he eventually continued the tour and made Adore. I read alot of silliness in this topic that I could shrug off, but let's please not spin that whole 1996 overdose thing into "Billy was being selfish". That's just stuipid. Remeber, a young man died that day. As a previous post said, it's not like Jimmy was caught with a dimebag.