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Old 08-22-2005, 08:27 AM   #1
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The Sox dimantling of their 2004 team is almost complete
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:09 AM   #2
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:26 AM   #3
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not gay.

how're the yanks doing?
1 gm out of wildcard right now
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:30 AM   #5
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:34 AM   #6
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:58 AM   #7
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Welcome to last Wednesday.

And he hasn't played in a game for Boston in what, a month?

But, I'll never forget the sound of his home run in Game 1 of the WS cracking the foul poul. Or his home runs in Game 6/Game 7 in New York for that matter.

Thank you, Belly.

 
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:23 PM   #8
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for a team that's supposed to be sabermetrically aligned, to ignore a .323 and the baility to play numerous positions OBP in favor of a poor BA is pretty dumb
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for a team that's supposed to be sabermetrically aligned, to ignore a .323 and the baility to play numerous positions OBP in favor of a poor BA is pretty dumb
Well, Bellhorn IS better than Cano. Maybe Cashman will pick him up!

 
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Well, Bellhorn IS better than Cano. Maybe Cashman will pick him up!
that's an asinine statement, and you know it
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:39 PM   #11
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that's an asinine statement, and you know it
Is it? Let's take a look:

2005 Cano vs. 2005 Bellhorn
Cano is -16 runs per 162 games. Neither this figure or Bellhorn's -8 is park adjusted. When you do, Cano is just behind Bellhorn -- 4.25 RC/27 (where 5.00 is league average) to Bellhorn's 4.32.

Cano's ZR is .827, which is a tad below average. I think Bellhorn has to be given at least a slight edge defensively.

By the numbers
Cano 277/304/417, .255 EQA
Bellhorn 216/328/360, .253 EQA

Cano 4.08 RC/27
Bellhorn 4.31 RC/27

Secondary average, Bellhorn leads .329 to .177

So, yeah, Bellhorn had a better season than the New York's ROY candidate, by the numbers at least.

The worst quality of Bellhorn was his horrid VORPr.

That said, Graff > Bellhorn.

 
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Old 08-22-2005, 05:26 PM   #12
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I know.

I still cry when Pedro pitches well. (Not like full out bawling. But a little teary.) I mean, yeah you have to move on. But it's hard.

Bellhorn should be kept over Cora, except he's not going to right himself not playing everyday. Poor guy. The magnet will live on.

Who died and made you Mark Bellhorn, indeed.

 
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:29 PM   #13
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damn you will carroll, damn you and your speculation. ugh.

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(blah blah blah mark grudziehroaetlanek injury blah) The Cards will juggle their lineup a bit more and continue to win with pitching and Albert Pujols, though Mark Bellhorn could be an option.
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