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Old 01-05-2017, 04:48 PM   #481
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recap:

3 songs o'rarities magnet:?xt=urn:btih:B4328E11BA9D7BD4...%27%20Rarities
nothing ever changes magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4D57A9531882F2E6...Ever%20Changes
reel time sessions magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6B42BBA7539AD8E2...ime%20Sessions
ignoffo tape magnet:?xt=urn:btih:49DE51857E63EB66...Ignoffo%20Tape
moon and smashing pumpkins demo tapes magnet:?xt=urn:btih:FBB4562DCD302D7E...emo%20tapes%29

gish rough mix magnet:?xt=urn:btihDAD5060E17E04CD741F9C4F098ACA A03FA34770&dn=Gish%20Rough%20Mix

quiet and other songs magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5CF40ADC639FFA9F...0Other%20Songs
kitty kat (original mix) magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0E489B69AF3DE1A8...ginal%20mix%29
mashed potatoes magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0CC299F083B27CCD...hed%20Potatoes
pisces iscariot + friends magnet:?xt=urn:btih:F42D4810AB550FA7...0%2b%20Friends
b-sides tape magnet:?xt=urn:btih:18E69F5DBED8FBCB...20%5b16-bit%5d

mcis demos I magnet:?xt=urn:btih:F39C4C2B4D53AE7F...IS%20Demos%20I
mcis demos II magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4B413AFB36D18237...S%20Demos%20II
mcis demos III magnet:?xt=urn:btih:C6D47EFB7604E567...for%20Darcy%29
666 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ED7D2E0F3D491006...101D773&dn=666
billy's gravity demos I magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1234F70ABE723E69...ty%20Demos%20I
sequence IV magnet:?xt=urn:btih:163490A9CB16A9F8...=Sequence%20IV
mcis rough mix magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4EC69DE9059053B8...%5b16%20bit%5d

adore demos I magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4723A0A17677F3E9...re%20Demos%20I
adore demos II magnet:?xt=urn:btih:B27E5D9F1129996F...e%20Demos%20II
adore demos II (starseed) magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8B7DE297B560A8A1...%7bStArSeEd%7d

friends and enemies of modern music magnet:?xt=urn:btih:BDE2A0C57F297646...Modern%20Music
machina acoustic demos magnet:?xt=urn:btih:55A1E70083A5A5C0...oustic%20Demos
machina II (q101) magnet:?xt=urn:btih:58D88C802F2BDA91...%29%20-%20FLAC
machina II (virgin) magnet:?xt=urn:btih:25E0BA4918B84861...%29%20-%20FLAC
sacred and profane tour soundboard compilation magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3F3C1481CFE61190...82000.05.xx%29
Thanks so much for all your work. This is awesome. I'm willing to seed all these for as long as possible, but I wasn't able to grab 666, Machina II (Virgin), Mashed Potatoes, and Adore Demos II {StArSeEd}. Is there any way you could reseed those? Thank you!!!

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Old 01-06-2017, 03:08 AM   #482
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:51 AM   #483
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and this is not a torrent, but still online:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/t1...pre-master.zip

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The Smashing Pumpkins
Machina/the Machines of God
Complete Pre-Master

Lineage: the band > ??? > CD-R > EAC > FLAC, where "???" apparently does not *******
Howie Weinberg

Tracks:
1. The Everlasting Gaze
2. Raindrops + Sunshowers
3. Stand Inside Your Love
4. I of the Mourning
5. The Sacred and Profane
6. Try, Try, Try
7. Heavy Metal Machine
8. This Time
9. The Imploding Voice
10. Glass and the Ghost Children
11. Wound
12. The Crying Tree of Mercury
13. With Every Light
14. Blue Skies Bring Tears
15. Age of Innocence

Notes:
* On the CD-R, track 6 is missing the last several seconds. The missing
portion has been replaced with the requisite segment from the album as
commercially released.

* Tracks 4 and 7 (and possibly others as well) seem to be missing maybe the
very last 1 or 2 seconds (when compared to the album as commercially
released), but these are at the very end of fadeouts, and thus nothing has
been done to them. In other words: for all tracks except track 6, what you
have here is what is on the CD-R.

* Tracks 5 and 15 are different mixes than on the album as commercially
released.

FLAC fingerprints:
01 - The Everlasting Gaze.flac:2b63a3125a234c1245613209d97dafc7
02 - Raindrops + Sunshowers.flac:69137814379dc269ba4619af974b7249
03 - Stand Inside Your Love.flac:e1d1138f747d8c1ea235c324e8779793
04 - I of the Mourning.flac:83da57d5c183974789cdc2f8c2c98861
05 - The Sacred and Profane.flac:28be1f63472b6d30188a4c27269b56cf
06 - Try, Try, Try.flac:6afec529e2b7c3171e6ecdbba2cf7e09
07 - Heavy Metal Machine.flac:30185fc388d20be9121259b8e8d6de98
08 - This Time.flac:adae25000f97fe0ed36c92aa7756eaf1
09 - The Imploding Voice.flac:0cabc53eff631158a4dbf48d8795d2db
10 - Glass and the Ghost Children.flac:99f2717700dd8f17d087af407748344c
11 - Wound.flac:44da1aa4a4e80f25d7ba2bf4e7bf9917
12 - The Crying Tree of Mercury.flac:3c00a4f8923ec86c87c33143c312dc6a
13 - With Every Light.flac:3f1f317d01ce431a25ff401747073b05
14 - Blue Skies Bring Tears.flac:866d7a7aebd72087e641271c251ae62a
15 - Age of Innocence.flac:2c5107a6480676bd518777e63593a511

 
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:34 PM   #484
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I'm not smart and just learned that a pre-master is what the final album sounded like through the studio monitors, before it was mastered for cd or whatever medium.

 
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:02 PM   #485
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What like the Witch of Endor?

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:47 PM   #486
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I'm not smart and just learned that a pre-master is what the final album sounded like through the studio monitors, before it was mastered for cd or whatever medium.
it's the final mix in CD quality.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:36 PM   #487
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CD quality would infer that it has been mastered, no?

As in, mastered for CD. Honest question.

 
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Old 01-22-2017, 03:18 AM   #488
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no. cd quality is 16 bit audio using a sample rate of 44.1 khz.

the final mix probably would've been on analogue tape initailly, and then digitally sampled - possibly to 24 or 32 bit files - then burnt to CD.

 
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Old 04-07-2017, 04:41 AM   #489
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is it correct that the only known sources for "mcis demos I" and "gish basement tape" (aka "5 song sampler") are (several) bootleg cds?
http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/b...ml?boot_id=162
http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/d...?discog_id=119

or are there versions out there sourced directly off the original tapes?
(i assume "mcis demos I" was also a tape, originally.)

does anyone own that "gish basement tape"?

 
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:22 AM   #490
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there are scans of a mcis demos I tape?
interesting.

it's never "both of those boots": these collections of songs appear on many different bootlegs. and i have access to a lot of them.
i am indeed looking for sources that come directly from the demo tapes, if they (still) exists. (so without any bootleg company involvement.) this is what we're doing in this thread: trying to track down sources as original as possible.

the "5 song sampler" aka "gish basement tape" isn't very interesting to begin with: all tracks are from the reel time studios sessions. nothing new there.
but it might be nice to have a transfer from one of the actual demo tapes. just because.

 
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Old 04-07-2017, 01:07 PM   #491
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the "5 song sampler" aka "gish basement tape" isn't very interesting to begin with: all tracks are from the reel time studios sessions. nothing new there.
but it might be nice to have a transfer from one of the actual demo tapes. just because.
I have this, which I believe is the 'Gish Demo Tape' plus the original Smashing Pumpkins tape. Is that Billy's handwriting on the tape? I've never been sure.
Interestingly the track listing is identical to the Pumpkin Seeds bootleg.

http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...61&postcount=6
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I also got a demo tape from Ron with an identical listing to 'Pumpkin Seeds'

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/boot.html?boot_id=74



 
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:27 AM   #492
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Is that Billy's handwriting on the tape? I've never been sure.
i'm not sure either. it definitely has some bc characteristics. but it's not very convincing.
it could be ron roesing or someone else trying to immitate bc's handwriting.

 
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:28 AM   #493
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alright well i would imagine the 5 song sampler in SHN is likely 'original as possible', i realize those are from RTS and not anything new.
i'm interested.

 
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:47 PM   #494
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i'm not sure either. it definitely has some bc characteristics. but it's not very convincing.
it could be ron roesing or someone else trying to immitate bc's handwriting.
My gut says it's not BC handwriting. Doesn't add up. Tape is too new and not well labeled for such old material.

Just my dumb two cents.

 
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Totally not Billy's handwriting, and those cassettes are mid- to late-90s.

 
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nice one. thanks.

 
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Case crackers!

 
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:43 PM   #498
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Holy shit this thread. Didn't even see the links. And I was just wishing i had mcis demos. Thanks guys!!

 
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Or I guess I should say thanks caic!

 
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I'm missing satur9hub - seems it has been offline for a little while?

Hopefully it comes back soon!!!

 
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Old 05-26-2017, 05:05 PM   #501
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What the hell happened to the Music Trading Post subforum? Why is this now in the main forum?

 
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Old 05-26-2017, 06:12 PM   #502
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Why do you ask why?

Be silent, my son.

 
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Jeez. These mods are idiots.

Bring back monte.

 
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weasel is disppointed; the merge was successful

 
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yeah, if you're browsing for boots or demos, you'll have to sift through a load of shit ram27 threads. great success.

some people have no clue.

 
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only for people new to the site.

i'm pretty much sorted.

well done.

 
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Sad, very sad.

 
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