Netphoria Message Board


Go Back   Netphoria Message Board > Archives > General Chat Archive
Register Netphoria's Amazon.com Link Members List Mark Forums Read

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-19-2014, 07:51 PM   #301
ilikeplanets
Braindead
 
ilikeplanets's Avatar
 
Location: Ignore List
Posts: 17,229
Default

whassa matta?

 
ilikeplanets is offline
Old 09-19-2014, 08:54 PM   #302
yo soy el mejor
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
yo soy el mejor's Avatar
 
Location: all over the Internet
Posts: 44,548
Default

it's whussa matta you?

 
yo soy el mejor is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 02:33 AM   #303
null123
Minion of Satan
 
Location: bye
Posts: 7,266
Default

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...94081e7161d7ef
started this working from a model today, gonna keep working on this one I think. I haven't painted in a long time and never before with oils so it's a lot to juggle but I'm having a good time

 
null123 is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 05:58 AM   #304
Cool As Ice Cream
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
Cool As Ice Cream's Avatar
 
Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle?
Posts: 32,741
Default

nice

 
Cool As Ice Cream is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 06:02 AM   #305
yo soy el mejor
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
yo soy el mejor's Avatar
 
Location: all over the Internet
Posts: 44,548
Default

i have the brains of an artist but not the talent -jacques cousteau

 
yo soy el mejor is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 09:37 AM   #306
Sonic Johnny
Through Silver In Buds
 
Sonic Johnny's Avatar
 
Location: Centralia
Posts: 16,502
Default

Last night D. had the honour of being the first netphorian to make an IRL appearance in one of my dreams! You brought your family down under for whatever reason and I showed you guys around Fremantle (where I haven't lived for 2+ years) but instead of having a daughter who was young you had a teenage son who looked like you but with midget proportions and long hair. He was basically just fucking shit up everywhere I took you guys to the point where you were like "fuck this" and chained him to bike rack and we went to the pub and then I woke up.

 
Sonic Johnny is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 09:42 AM   #307
vixnix
Socialphobic
 
vixnix's Avatar
 
Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria
Posts: 12,467
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charmbag View Post
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...94081e7161d7ef
started this working from a model today, gonna keep working on this one I think. I haven't painted in a long time and never before with oils so it's a lot to juggle but I'm having a good time
This shows heaps of skill...art school is clearly worth it! How far off graduating are you?

 
vixnix is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 10:42 AM   #308
The exploding boy
Minion of Satan
 
The exploding boy's Avatar
 
Location: "I'm a quivering collection of the worst and least helpful emotions: fear, anxiety, terror, paranoia, indigestion, dishpan hands..."
Posts: 7,765
Default

vixnix don't be a dick.

 
The exploding boy is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 11:26 AM   #309
hnibos
Braindead
 
hnibos's Avatar
 
Location: I was just reading, right?
Posts: 15,023
Default

She's probably jealous because she doesn't do anything she enjoys in life.

 
hnibos is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 02:41 PM   #310
null123
Minion of Satan
 
Location: bye
Posts: 7,266
Default

How was she being a dick? I'm about 2 years from graduation if I don't take any terms off

Last edited by null123 : 10-04-2014 at 02:48 PM.

 
null123 is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 02:46 PM   #311
The exploding boy
Minion of Satan
 
The exploding boy's Avatar
 
Location: "I'm a quivering collection of the worst and least helpful emotions: fear, anxiety, terror, paranoia, indigestion, dishpan hands..."
Posts: 7,765
Default

I was just pretending she was being sarcastic. I know she wasn't but you could read it this way. I thin the painting is good. I respect people who can draw and paint more than any other type of art because it's probably the only type of art i can't even reach child level skill at. It is a skill alien to me.

 
The exploding boy is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 03:08 PM   #312
Order 66
Socialphobic
 
Order 66's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,831
Default

skill aliens are the scariest

 
Order 66 is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 03:16 PM   #313
The exploding boy
Minion of Satan
 
The exploding boy's Avatar
 
Location: "I'm a quivering collection of the worst and least helpful emotions: fear, anxiety, terror, paranoia, indigestion, dishpan hands..."
Posts: 7,765
Default

I disagree. Equivalent to though? Probably.

 
The exploding boy is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 05:49 PM   #314
yo soy el mejor
Just Hook it to My Veins!
 
yo soy el mejor's Avatar
 
Location: all over the Internet
Posts: 44,548
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charmbag View Post
the hair is my favorite part

 
yo soy el mejor is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 06:07 PM   #315
null123
Minion of Satan
 
Location: bye
Posts: 7,266
Default

Thanks. It's easier when the model already has an interesting Look

 
null123 is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 06:11 PM   #316
noyen
Immortal
 
noyen's Avatar
 
Posts: 26,795
Default

he looks like basquiat. faked his death and is modelling.

 
noyen is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 06:16 PM   #317
null123
Minion of Satan
 
Location: bye
Posts: 7,266
Default

ikr

 
null123 is offline
Old 10-04-2014, 06:16 PM   #318
Trotskilicious
Banned
 
Trotskilicious's Avatar
 
Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship.
Posts: 39,439
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The exploding boy View Post
I was just pretending she was being sarcastic.
Considering the fact that its vix, it was probabky sarcasm

 
Trotskilicious is offline
Old 10-05-2014, 06:59 AM   #319
vixnix
Socialphobic
 
vixnix's Avatar
 
Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria
Posts: 12,467
Default

I wasn't being sarcastic - I spent ages looking at all the blending of shades and colours. I think there's a lot of technical knowledge and practice visible... It's encouraging that students have a place to go to learn how to paint. 2 years off graduating means there is still a lot to learn...is it considered a good school? It seems like you're going to get a lot out of it.

I know someone who paints (has exhibitions, sells, etc.) but he was never trained as far as I know. He has an MA in history and painting was originally a hobby, but it has become his full time occupation. But his painting is highly stylized if that makes sense - he pretty much only does buildings and cityscapes... I don't know if he could paint something like this. It seems like developing versatility is a big advantage of going to art school - it's so similar to music in that sense - school helps you commercially in one way because you can be flexible...but do you feel like your own voice/style is a bit stifled there, or are they good at developing it? I definitely lost my ability for self expression by studying musical composition - it doesn't happen to everyone! My husband studied audio engineering with the aim of better recording his own stuff and his band's stuff, and list all drive to write music because when he's involved in making it all he can really think about now is sound quality.

 
vixnix is offline
Old 10-05-2014, 03:05 PM   #320
null123
Minion of Satan
 
Location: bye
Posts: 7,266
Default

Yeah I'm just now starting my painting education at this school so hopefully I'll be a lot better at the end. It is considered a good school. It's probably the best "commercial" art school in the country.

School definitely doesn't let you just chill in your comfort zone. You can fake a lot of people into thinking you know what you're doing if you just practice drawing anime girls or cars 24/7. I guess if that's all you ever wanna do then it's fine but it's funny how you'll see the quality nose dive as soon as someone tries to branch out at all. This particular school has a specific method for its entertainment artists to learn to work and there is this specific ethos and aesthetic that can be pervasive. I have my own ideas though so I don't really have to worry about falling into it although you do wanna incorporate it.

 
null123 is offline
Old 10-05-2014, 07:16 PM   #321
vixnix
Socialphobic
 
vixnix's Avatar
 
Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria
Posts: 12,467
Default

Having your own firm ideas and ambitions before you go to a creative arts school must help I reckon. I found it really difficult to just write, after having learned about sonata form, motifs, cadences, blah blah...I felt like I wasn't really writing unless I had a stave with notes on it. So all of my songs were stunted and repetitive because improvising just overwhelms me. I actually had to but a book called 'how to improvise' or something like that because I can't shake the feeling of wanting to know how to do things 'correctly'. But I started classical piano at 7, so have been more or less indoctrinated for a long time. I know do many other amateur musicians in my situation, it's sad...

Interesting that there is a separate stream for entertainment artists...are you looking at more commercial goals for yourself or are you hoping to go down the fine arts/totally creative road?

 
vixnix is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 03:16 AM   #322
null123
Minion of Satan
 
Location: bye
Posts: 7,266
Default

I wanna be a video game artist but maybe I won't since my game designer brother and I aren't talking anymore


I used to want to be a gallery artist but then I realized that would make me insane(r)

 
null123 is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 03:18 AM   #323
null123
Minion of Satan
 
Location: bye
Posts: 7,266
Default

What would happen if you just forced yourself to improvise? I'm not musically inclined so I might just not understand

 
null123 is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 03:54 AM   #324
vixnix
Socialphobic
 
vixnix's Avatar
 
Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria
Posts: 12,467
Default

I just think of everything too structurally at the piano - any two notes I play, I hear an interval and see a key or a scale, rather than just hearing sounds. And all intervals, keys, scales etc., have associations for me - with other musical works, exercises I did in class with other students, something I had trouble learning, something one of my teachers said, something a choir director said about a composer, etc.

It's hard to clear my mind of all that. I tend to stick to the really sickly sweet, happy, clean sounding stuff I like, but I can never write good enough lyrics for those kinds of songs, so they just end up sounding like a poor imitation of a Burt Bacharach song.

 
vixnix is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 06:26 AM   #325
The exploding boy
Minion of Satan
 
The exploding boy's Avatar
 
Location: "I'm a quivering collection of the worst and least helpful emotions: fear, anxiety, terror, paranoia, indigestion, dishpan hands..."
Posts: 7,765
Default

This is kinda like why i was always wary of theory. Of course that doesn't mean that without any you don't ever fall into patterns. Cause i definitely do. My knowledge of theory is pretty much inexistent though, to an embarrassing level...like... not only i can't read music but i don't even know my notes on the neck... I know my open strings.... that's it. Ask me any note/chord i'm playing otherwise, i have no idea.

Although..of course its a bit bullshit to say i know no theory, i mean, i do know stuff i just don't know what to call it. I understand the concept of a scale or key but i don't know any by name but obviously i can play some. And hmm... I know what an octave or step or half step is..basic beginner stuff.

My gf had the bad idea to ask me to help her get better on guitar (she knows basic chords) but she doesn't trust herself so basically she has to know theory so she'll be asking ok well what that's chord you're playing and of course i don't know and she ask well how do you know that works, that it sounds good and i'm like well...because at some point i figured out if i put my fingers here here and here and there it sounded good...as dumb as that sounds. my approach to music since the beginning was always..there's nothing i can't learn through experimentation but the problem is since i never learned anything properly i can't really teach anything in a proper way and it drives her mad. While i know that trying to learn it properly myself would have driven ME mad (i'm terrible at learning through structure) and probably caused to quit.

 
The exploding boy is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 06:29 AM   #326
Elphenor
Braindead
 
Elphenor's Avatar
 
Location: TX
Posts: 16,289
Default

Wait, you don't know any chords?

Edit: I mean by name

 
Elphenor is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 06:43 AM   #327
The exploding boy
Minion of Satan
 
The exploding boy's Avatar
 
Location: "I'm a quivering collection of the worst and least helpful emotions: fear, anxiety, terror, paranoia, indigestion, dishpan hands..."
Posts: 7,765
Default

no

 
The exploding boy is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 06:56 AM   #328
Elphenor
Braindead
 
Elphenor's Avatar
 
Location: TX
Posts: 16,289
Default

That's trippy. I thought everyone started out by learning A-G at least.

I wonder how long it would have taken me to figure those out naturally

 
Elphenor is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 07:14 AM   #329
vixnix
Socialphobic
 
vixnix's Avatar
 
Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria
Posts: 12,467
Default

One of my favourite unknown songwriters learned like that...I really envied him for a long time. I've made peace with my musical background because it does mean that I can teach and play and I'm versatile - that's the benefit of formal instruction like I was saying to Charmbag...I play a lot at church and if we have to transpose or repeat a verse unexpectedly or change something I find all of that very easy... And any DAG song I can kinda nut out on a guitar, not studio quality obviously!! But good enough for around the campfire, or with the kids, like nursery rhymes and stuff - that's pretty cool. My son is about to sit grade 1 trombone and being able to help him with his scales and arpeggios and pieces - because I can read music and had to master all of those things myself... There are some rewards in that. But it does suck to be kind of incarcerated by it when I try to write. It's kind of a self confidence issue I guess, I don't feel like I've got any ideas that are new or good enough to warrant expression. Probably a natural instinct haha.

It takes a rare genius to write from behind the piano I reckon, when it happens it tends to be magical - I am always thrilled with what little I get out of it, but someone like Warren Zevon or Rachmaninov or Beethoven... Theolonius Monk, Tori Amos, Joanna Newsom... It's a sort of cosmos event, just the right circumstances and just the right person.

 
vixnix is offline
Old 10-12-2014, 07:36 AM   #330
Elphenor
Braindead
 
Elphenor's Avatar
 
Location: TX
Posts: 16,289
Default

I've always felt with guitar at least that what notes or chords you play actually matters a lot less than how you play them. Like strumming patterns and which notes you put a heavier emphasis on. And the time you put between notes. I've heard the expression "Playing the pauses"

I imagine it's similar on piano?

I know nothing about music theory though, so I bet there's actual terms for what I'm describing

 
Elphenor is offline
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is On
Google


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
So when is Jimmy coming back? Elphenor Smashing Pumpkins/Billy Corgan Discussion 42 08-06-2021 01:57 PM
Something I have noticed... rottenugly General Chat Archive 38 04-17-2012 04:25 PM
my very original ask me questions thread dr.benway General Chat Archive 27 08-04-2009 05:26 PM
So I ordered pizza last night Dead General Chat Archive 16 03-10-2007 02:13 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:13 AM.




Smashing Pumpkins, Alternative Music
& General Discussion Message Board and Forums
www.netphoria.org - Copyright © 1998-2022