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10-10-2007, 07:48 PM | #211 |
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the reason is songs like reckoner and faust and all i need outshine the sun.
you could put reckoner on the second half of metal machine music, nay, zeitgeist and i'd give it and 8.5. |
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Thanks, Tchocky.
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10-10-2007, 07:51 PM | #213 |
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soooorrryy andy. ¯\(º_o)/¯
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10-10-2007, 07:56 PM | #214 |
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Fine. Just for you, AndySlash, I will gush.
I thought the studio version of Arpeggi was incredible. Contrary to what Graveflower said about the original version of the song played with a full orchestra being worlds better, it's excellent and a joy to listen to. I initially found the beginning of All I Need with the distorted electric piano irritating, but after hearing the full song, I came to enjoy it thoroughly. Jigsaw was a joy as well, mainly because it sounded the least like the "second Thom Yorke solo album" that I described the album as being. I can see why people might not like House of Cards, but I thought it was pleasantly chill. Reckoner went in an unexpected direction, but it was a good one. 15 Step has really grown on me after a few listens. Faust Arp was okay. And the studio versions of Nude and Videotape aren't TERRIBLE, they are good, but I just wish they'd have stayed true to the original version with the former and kept the latter a bit simpler on the production side of things. Bodysnatchers...meh. A half-hearted attempt by Radiohead to "rock"...it just sounds forced. I have a feeling I'll have the same criticism of Bangers 'n' Mash when I get the discbox. I can't wait for Down Is The New Up and Last Flowers. |
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GEE THANKS. Christ, man, I'm not trying to put you on the defensive here. Your comments just didn't (and really, still don't to me) mesh with your score. As the RH fan that you obviously are, I wanted to know what justified an 8.5 in your review. If you turned that in to a magazine I'd think they'd ask the same things. GOD FORGIVE ME FOR MY TRANSGRESSIONS. |
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10-10-2007, 08:14 PM | #217 |
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You wanted to know why I gave the album an 8.5, and I tried to explain why. I honestly think there are 4 wonderful, four good, one okay and one meh song on the album. Maybe 8.5 was a little generous, but like www.ign.com, my overall score isn't the average of the parts.
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10-10-2007, 08:23 PM | #218 |
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does there exist some sort of compilation of the new songs from the 2006 tour - something like T&T did for the new SP songs? I like the songs, but at least from the youtube clips I liked songs like All I need or Videotape as played live on their tour more than these album versions.
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10-10-2007, 08:31 PM | #219 |
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I think this is a really focused, concise, lovely little album. It flows wonderfully, the middle section (Arpeggi to Reckoner) is ridiculously strong, the arrangements are tasteful and textured and lush. I really don't hear what some people are describing as Radiohead "trying to be weird". It's a pretty straightforward album in a lot of ways. There don't really seem to be many frills or pointless extravagances thrown around just for the hell of it. Everything has it's place and seems to be there for the specific reason of propelling the respective songs.
Though I can't tell exactly where it ranks amongst their other albums, i'm pretty positive it can at the very least stand proudly with them. |
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10-10-2007, 08:31 PM | #220 |
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I think "In Rainbows" is really good. It could have possibly been the best (grown up) Radiohead album, but it's too short. It seems like they left off a couple of really good tunes and relegated them to the "bonus disc".
Another flaw is that House of Cards is the longest song on the album, unfortuantely it is also the worst. It just meanders on a bit for me for where it was placed on the tracklist. Am I nitpicking? |
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10-10-2007, 08:45 PM | #224 |
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sweet, its not a lemon party
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10-10-2007, 08:50 PM | #225 |
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IR is the first radiohead record since OKC that hasn't made me uncomfortable on first listen. Kid A, Amnesiac and HTTT all had me scratching my head (though i fell in love with them pretty fast) during the first few listens.
this record i am falling instantly in love with. so far the criticisms i've read (thom solo 2, overproduction, yadda yadda) all seem a bit nit picky.. because what it comes down to is that this record is a damn fine aesthetic pleaser.. i must have drove through back roads for about three hours today blasting ths record.. comletely easy to get lost in. ps anone who criticizes that this record sounds like thom solo 2 are pretty suspect as to how well they actually know radioheads music. |
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10-10-2007, 08:50 PM | #226 |
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you fellas are most welcome!
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10-10-2007, 08:55 PM | #227 | |
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I mean, if you're going to criticize a Radiohead album of basically being a Thom Yorke solo album, Kid A would be the most accurate pick. |
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also, you wouldn't find the same, rich harmonic textures presented on this record on the eraser.. for example i think jonny was a bit more responsble for the progression in faust arp, obviously the orchestral arrangements (not on eraser).. this record sounds to me like onny's going in this atmospheric avant noise + orchestral writing and he's trying it out here. arpeggi is straight up j greenwood minus the vocal melody/lyrics. im just not hearing the eraser influence.. it can be argued for 15 step and videotape (which does sound like it was recorded by thom by himself in about 20 minutes) but other than that where else are you hearing it? |
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10-10-2007, 10:53 PM | #235 |
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just by reading every single bit of writing on the kid a/amnesiac sessions... the kid a being a thom solo album notion that so many fans have stuck in their heads is a fallacy. sure it was difficult and tedious process for the band but they were all involved in a big way.
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10-10-2007, 10:57 PM | #236 |
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and dudes... reckoner is absolutely amazing. it is this album's there there. i wish the entire album had similar production. it is the most sad/pretty song on the album.
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I wasn't implying that Kid A is in any sense a Thom Yorke solo album. But if there was one album I had to label as such it would be Kid A, not In Rainbows. Kid A was so strongly driven by Thom's stubborn, unrelenting vision. And all the electronic influences (Aphex Twin, Autechre, Squarepusher etc) were completely foreign to some of the other band members. |
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It's just a very silly thing to criticize In Rainbows as sounding like a Thom Yorke solo album (as some were doing) when it sounds much more collaborative and mutual than Kid A. |
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