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Old 06-28-2019, 08:19 PM   #31
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fuck, we still need the final metro show

 
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Old 06-28-2019, 09:48 PM   #32
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those machina tours were some of the best shows, right up there w/ siamese era.
uhhhh...........wut?

 
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:36 PM   #33
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They really were

Stfu fuzzrod

 
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Old 06-29-2019, 11:06 PM   #34
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Old 06-30-2019, 12:40 AM   #35
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Old 06-30-2019, 02:35 AM   #36
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Their concert in North Korea was one of their best. Soon to be released with the Machina deLuxe reissue...

 
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:30 AM   #37
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also i'm 22 so i'm a cringy dumbass constantly. [for evidence, read any of my old posts]
being 22 ain't that good of an excuse..

 
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:34 AM   #38
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Oh look someone posted that video again

 
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:36 AM   #39
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Why did you have to post a version that's only in 240p, fuck you Ram you fucken cringey fuck

 
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:36 AM   #40
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Just kidding I love you

 
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Old 06-30-2019, 02:30 PM   #41
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Old 07-01-2019, 07:28 PM   #42
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This is some revisionist history bs, the whole MCIS era was godly tookfucking brilliance.

 
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Old 07-01-2019, 08:28 PM   #43
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i'd prefer "foolfuckery" but ok

 
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Old 08-22-2019, 12:23 AM   #44
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Both.

There was tons of great material out of that era, but also lots of shat released. Ideas that probably should have been scrapped or reworked, they instead took all the way to fruition. MCIS also sounds like shit (recording/production wise). It was like Billy thought he was getting paid by the song.

That being said, Adore was obviously far more "self-indulgent" and Machina was a failed attempt at undoing what he thought went wrong with Adore. At least from a commercial/sales standpoint. Machina had some great ideas, but the production and "Machina mystery" were essentially Bill going full retard mode. Hence, the band and vast majority of fans calling it quits in 2000.

 
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Old 08-22-2019, 01:37 AM   #45
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MCIS also sounds like shit (recording/production wise)
your ears must be broken

 
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:31 AM   #46
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The production on MCIS is rawer for sure, definitely more of a 70's vibe production-wise. But I think it suits the album and songs perfectly. Couldn't imagine it any other way.

 
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Old 08-22-2019, 03:08 AM   #47
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it was smart to make it a double, as the sales counted twice!

not sure it would work better as a single album, even though half of the album is just kinda random filler ideas that are cute but more mashed potatoes cute than white album cute. if you move things around mcis kinda falls apart into mess.

 
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