Official poll: Will you boycott the upcoming tour because of D'arcy? - Page 5

SPLATTER · 02-15-2018, 11:17 PM

I got my daughter into SP a few years ago and she became somewhat of a fan. She saw online today SP reunion tour. She wants me to take her. I had to tell her he's a Trump supporter racist. We talked about if we could separate art from the artist. We decided we can. But we're not giving money to support Bully anymore.

ilikeplanets · 02-15-2018, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

I'm undecided but I will vote when I make up my mind

hypocrite!

slunken · 02-15-2018, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

and three guitars cannot exist at the same time on one stage

woah woah woah stop right there

redbreegull · 02-16-2018, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by slunken

woah woah woah stop right there

sorry, I was mocking an argument fuzzy made for 20 pages by slightly tweaking what he was saying each time, expecting people to take him seriously. eventually someone who is actually a professional musician explained to him he was totally wrong and three guitars is not only possible but has been done successfully by tons of bands, and he crept off in shame

slayed23 · 02-16-2018, 12:29 AM

How can anyone actually blame Billy for selling out and going for the money? He tried to create new music that was personal to him and it didn't work. It didn't sell well. He has an opportunity to make more money this way.

Also, those laughing at the venue choices, did you honestly think that he was not going to try and play in the biggest venues possible for the reunion tour? I would have been shocked beyond belief if he went to theaters or clubs for this. It may work and it may not. But I can't fault the dude for trying.

reprise85 · 02-16-2018, 12:35 AM

If the shows are good I'll probably wait for a good groupon deal and go.

reprise85 · 02-16-2018, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by slayed23

Also, those laughing at the venue choices, did you honestly think that he was not going to try and play in the biggest venues possible for the reunion tour? I would have been shocked beyond belief if he went to theaters or clubs for this. It may work and it may not. But I can't fault the dude for trying.

Well, if he played large theaters he most likely would have pulled it off without too many issues. Now he's made it very, very iffy. Hope it works out for him I guess, but if it doesn't because it doesn't sell well enough because he shot for the moon I hope he realizes he did it to himself

redbreegull · 02-16-2018, 12:38 AM

I don't care that it's about money. Billy Corgan has already sold out and betrayed everything he claimed to stand for a long time ago. I just want a reunion that is good-hearted and is respectful to the legacy of the original band... and unfortunately, as simple as that seems, Billy Corgan is too much of an irredeemable cock knocker to even give us that.

redbreegull · 02-16-2018, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by reprise85

I hope he realizes he did it to himself

he won't though, he'll blame it on the fans and D'arcy

slunken · 02-16-2018, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

he won't though, he'll blame it on the fans and D'arcy

and hopefully jimmy and/or james

slunken · 02-16-2018, 12:45 AM

freaking kazoo solos

fuzzyroes · 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

sorry, I was mocking an argument fuzzy made for 20 pages by slightly tweaking what he was saying each time, expecting people to take him seriously. eventually someone who is actually a professional musician explained to him he was totally wrong and three guitars is not only possible but has been done successfully by tons of bands, and he crept off in shame

You rat bastard. I never said it wouldn't be good because of 3 guitarists... I simply said it sucked that James wouldn't be the only other primary guitarist and then gave reasons why it could end up backfiring. Go listen to Zwan live, there's always 1 guitar that takes the back-seat in the mix.... If that's Jeff for the tour, then we're gravy... I'm simply worried that it might be James.

You really do have some sort of grudge don't you? Grow the fuck up.

MisterSquishyHalo · 02-16-2018, 01:10 AM

No.

I didn't boycott the Machina tour because of No Darcy.

I haven't seen Billy, James, Jimmy together since the Final shows in Chicago. 18 fucking years ago

T&T · 02-16-2018, 01:12 AM

I'll go if I get a snide Netphoria show to wear when I go.

Skradgee · 02-16-2018, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by T&T

I'll go if I get a snide Netphoria show to wear when I go.

...go if I get a what? A snide Netphoria *shirt?

I might go to the Montreal show. Imagine a bunch of Netphoria shirts outnumbering Sad Machines shirts. : P

spumpernickel · 02-16-2018, 02:37 AM

i'm not on board unless he gets ron riesling back

FoolofaTook · 02-16-2018, 02:57 AM

I'll go if monte's up there with them doing interpretive dance.

Corgan's Bluff · 02-16-2018, 04:11 AM

I don't have to boycott them, as the ticket sale will be so low that they won't cross the Atlantic after the U.S. dates.

slayed23 · 02-16-2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by reprise85

Well, if he played large theaters he most likely would have pulled it off without too many issues. Now he's made it very, very iffy. Hope it works out for him I guess, but if it doesn't because it doesn't sell well enough because he shot for the moon I hope he realizes he did it to himself

The problem, atleast in the US, is that in a lot of cities, you go from 3K theaters to full blown arenas with not much in-between that isn't a garbage venue for music.

Take Chicago. You have Aragon Ballroom which I think holds around 4K. After that, what is next before something like Allstate which holds almost 20K? And if you are gonna play there, you might as well play the UC which is like 22K since it's closer to the loop where all the people are with money. There are smaller arenas like UIC but how good is that for music?

I suppose he could have tried theaters on multiple nights but then you are limiting the number of cities you go to. Can't play every night for 6 straight months.

byoung88 · 02-16-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

No one cares... Fans just wanna see a fun production with Jimmy rocking his ass off while Billy plays our favorite songs...

Sure, there's no integrity involved, and this is the biggest sell-out shit that the Smashing Pumpkins have ever done in their career... But I'm gonna be 32 in a few months, I simply don't care anymore. I just wanna have some fun and see a spectacle featuring the songs I love.

Exactly how I feel.

whywontyoulistn · 02-16-2018, 09:03 AM

I can't wait to ask James what he thinks of Jeff's playing.

MisterSquishyHalo · 02-16-2018, 02:16 PM

He should have played the Showare center. Still has the arena feel, but at 6k seats, something you can sell out

vajohna · 02-17-2018, 01:54 PM

If this tour was in partial support of a Machina reissue, I'd be excited about it. I'm just not that interested. It's "reunion" hype and Livenation summer tour boilerplate promotion.

Mals Marola · 02-17-2018, 02:31 PM

tbh my final decision is gonna hinge on the price of the tickets way more than any band/bolly drama

houseofglass11 · 02-17-2018, 03:16 PM

All shows will go to groupon so just wait for that if you really want to go.

Mals Marola · 02-17-2018, 03:34 PM

oh don't you worry, asshouse, this ain't the first time i've played the game...

FoolofaTook · 02-17-2018, 04:39 PM

Asshouse lol

houseofglass11 · 02-17-2018, 06:40 PM

Oh yuhhh huh huh huh

Funbags · 02-17-2018, 07:38 PM

Do you think Billy is practicing his old whiney voice? Can he even do that anymore?

johncg · 02-17-2018, 11:29 PM

"No I'm still going" is winning.

Netphoria, you disappoint me.

View Poll Results: Will you boycott the upcoming tour because of D'arcy?
Yes, I am staying home because of the D'arcy debacle/it's not a real reunion	29	27.10%
No, I still plan to attend the upcoming tour	53	49.53%
I was never planning on seeing the band on the upcoming tour	25	23.36%
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02-15-2018, 11:17 PM	#121
SPLATTER Demi-God Location: New York Posts: 424	I got my daughter into SP a few years ago and she became somewhat of a fan. She saw online today SP reunion tour. She wants me to take her. I had to tell her he's a Trump supporter racist. We talked about if we could separate art from the artist. We decided we can. But we're not giving money to support Bully anymore.

02-16-2018, 12:29 AM	#125
slayed23 Ownz Posts: 592	How can anyone actually blame Billy for selling out and going for the money? He tried to create new music that was personal to him and it didn't work. It didn't sell well. He has an opportunity to make more money this way. Also, those laughing at the venue choices, did you honestly think that he was not going to try and play in the biggest venues possible for the reunion tour? I would have been shocked beyond belief if he went to theaters or clubs for this. It may work and it may not. But I can't fault the dude for trying.

02-16-2018, 12:35 AM	#126
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	If the shows are good I'll probably wait for a good groupon deal and go.

02-16-2018, 12:38 AM	#128
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	I don't care that it's about money. Billy Corgan has already sold out and betrayed everything he claimed to stand for a long time ago. I just want a reunion that is good-hearted and is respectful to the legacy of the original band... and unfortunately, as simple as that seems, Billy Corgan is too much of an irredeemable cock knocker to even give us that.

02-16-2018, 12:45 AM	#131
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	freaking kazoo solos

02-16-2018, 01:10 AM	#133
MisterSquishyHalo Apocalyptic Poster Location: seattle, wa, usa Posts: 3,964	No. I didn't boycott the Machina tour because of No Darcy. I haven't seen Billy, James, Jimmy together since the Final shows in Chicago. 18 fucking years ago

02-16-2018, 01:12 AM	#134
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,677	I'll go if I get a snide Netphoria show to wear when I go.

02-16-2018, 02:37 AM	#136
spumpernickel Amish Rake Fighter Location: pretty cool place Posts: 22	i'm not on board unless he gets ron riesling back

02-16-2018, 02:57 AM	#137
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	I'll go if monte's up there with them doing interpretive dance.

02-16-2018, 04:11 AM	#138
Corgan's Bluff Minion of Satan Location: Travelling between Ukraine and Russia Posts: 5,357	I don't have to boycott them, as the ticket sale will be so low that they won't cross the Atlantic after the U.S. dates.

02-16-2018, 09:03 AM	#141
whywontyoulistn Ownz Posts: 739	I can't wait to ask James what he thinks of Jeff's playing.

02-16-2018, 02:16 PM	#142
MisterSquishyHalo Apocalyptic Poster Location: seattle, wa, usa Posts: 3,964	He should have played the Showare center. Still has the arena feel, but at 6k seats, something you can sell out

02-17-2018, 01:54 PM	#143
vajohna Ownz Posts: 668	If this tour was in partial support of a Machina reissue, I'd be excited about it. I'm just not that interested. It's "reunion" hype and Livenation summer tour boilerplate promotion.

02-17-2018, 02:31 PM	#144
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	tbh my final decision is gonna hinge on the price of the tickets way more than any band/bolly drama

02-17-2018, 03:16 PM	#145
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,690	All shows will go to groupon so just wait for that if you really want to go.

02-17-2018, 03:34 PM	#146
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	oh don't you worry, asshouse, this ain't the first time i've played the game...

02-17-2018, 04:39 PM	#147
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	Asshouse lol

02-17-2018, 06:40 PM	#148
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,690	Oh yuhhh huh huh huh

02-17-2018, 07:38 PM	#149
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,425	Do you think Billy is practicing his old whiney voice? Can he even do that anymore?

02-17-2018, 11:29 PM	#150
johncg Apocalyptic Poster Location: I teared Joe Rogan a new one Posts: 1,427	"No I'm still going" is winning. Netphoria, you disappoint me.