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05-04-2014, 03:05 AM | #1 |
Saturday Night Goth
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The Left's Push for Adult-Child Sex
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05-04-2014, 03:26 AM | #2 |
Braindead
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Lol.
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05-04-2014, 07:32 AM | #3 |
Socialphobic
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I've been asking questions about this for ages...what basis to we have to keep the age of consent for sex, other than maintaining the status quo?
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05-04-2014, 08:30 AM | #4 |
Braindead
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the maturity and capacity to consent knowing the possible consequences
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05-04-2014, 09:11 AM | #5 |
huh
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05-04-2014, 09:49 AM | #6 |
Brazilian Blouselord
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They did. It was great.
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05-04-2014, 01:16 PM | #7 |
Braindead
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05-04-2014, 01:57 PM | #8 |
Braindead
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05-04-2014, 02:12 PM | #9 |
Minion of Satan
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As Putin said about gays: "Just keep away from the children ok"
Seriously though statuatory rape.... i've known bajillions of girls who had sex when they were teens with guys well into their 20's or older. The same happens with gays. I mean many gay teenage boys seek sex with older men. The brother of an ex gf was like 15 and regularly having online sex with older men. Chill the fuck out. Most 15 years old nowadays know what the fuck they're doing. They rarely once they become adult go and scream about having been raped and abused. A lot are actually kinda doing it cause older men have money and pay for things... a lot of those girls are too. It's like light prostitution, big deal. the young get money, the old gets laid. Nothing new. I think 14 for age of consent is just fine. Though I think it was raised to 16 a few years ago here? Anyway, 15, 16 whatever. Most people don't give a shit that teens are having consensual sex with adults. the right wing guys are just upset about it cause they're not the ones having it. Oh wait actually usually they are. |
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05-04-2014, 02:41 PM | #10 |
huh
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05-04-2014, 03:14 PM | #11 |
Brazilian Blouselord
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Age of consent is just something males invented to limit women's sex lives.
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05-04-2014, 03:42 PM | #12 |
Minion of Satan
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the putin quote was a joke. He actually said that. He was obviously being a moron. I don't take back my opinion that a 15 years old generally can take charge of their sexual lives at least as much as a 18 years old can. Keep in mind im not saying this in a creepy way. I've never had sex with an underage and never sought to have it either.
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05-04-2014, 03:42 PM | #13 |
Minion of Satan
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05-04-2014, 03:50 PM | #14 |
huh
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with other 15-year-olds, maybe. not with adults. i'm not talking about line-blurring 18/16 or 17/15 relationships. then there is a question i guess. but to just say a 15-year-old knows enough to go around and get fucked by adults is insane and creepy.
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05-04-2014, 03:52 PM | #15 |
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boy this thread is gonna get gross
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05-04-2014, 04:11 PM | #16 | |
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and 15 years olds do not know what they are doing in general and are very likely to be taken advantage of by older people in all capacities, not just sexual. that's why age of consent is necessary. body maturity /= emotional maturity. |
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05-04-2014, 04:16 PM | #17 | |
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05-04-2014, 04:23 PM | #18 | |
Minion of Satan
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Of course young people can get abused by older people but whether you change the age of consent or not will have little effect on that. There's adults who also get abused... there's 20 years old girls or guys who are having more irresponsible sexual lives than some teens. Or who are more vulnerable than 16 years old and likely to get abused. Personally I feel the sooner we start treating teens like adults, the faster they'll grow up (and by that I DONT mean the sooner we start violating teenage girls or boys bodies). I don't know I see a real dichotomy in north American society especially. Lets sexualize everything and the children as soon as possible and then tell hem they shouldn't be having sex until they're at least 18 and preferably married. That's not a recipe for disaster, nope. |
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05-04-2014, 04:37 PM | #19 |
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They should just not be having Sex with adults. I dont care if 15 year olds are having sex with other 15 year olds or whatever.
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05-04-2014, 04:46 PM | #20 | |
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I think in our society we have a knee jerk reaction towards child-adult sexual relationships and I just wonder if that's cultural conditioning or if it, even by total coincidence, has some kind of rational basis. In reasonably recent European history, girls of 13 or 14 were married off to men because they had entered puberty...do we consider that practice abusive where it continues to happen today? It disturbs me to think we have nothing against child adult sexual relationships except an "ew" response. I know you're aware of how misguided that can be. It seems like there should be some additional, rational justification for an age of consent. But I haven't come across it yet. |
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05-04-2014, 04:48 PM | #21 | ||
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people also thought owning other people as property was cool or that people should be ruled by families that just passed the mantle of authority though genetic lines Quote:
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05-04-2014, 04:49 PM | #22 |
huh
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ok i think i need to exit this thread
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05-04-2014, 04:50 PM | #23 |
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vix is clearly just fishing because she's bored. i'd think she'd have kids to raise but she sure has a lot of time to waste trolling SP messageboards
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05-04-2014, 04:50 PM | #24 |
huh
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most 15-year-olds haven't even been exposed to anything even close to comprehensive sex education. and parents sure as shit aren't providing it either.
so no. a 15-year-old cannot consent to sex with an adult. for the love of fuck, vixnix. aren't your kids like 3-8 or something? and you think they should be able to have sex with adults? jesus. gross. |
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05-04-2014, 04:55 PM | #25 |
Socialphobic
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Yeah I didn't say that. I said it disturbs me to think that I only have a gut reaction and no rational basis for believing there should be an age of consent.
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05-04-2014, 04:57 PM | #26 |
Socialphobic
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Don't you have a dog to pat or some porn to watch before you go back to your dead end job trots? Just go back to that. And talking endlessly about who is and is not a hipster in your Austin-qualified opinion. Seriously, go ahead and give us another paragraph on that.
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05-04-2014, 05:04 PM | #27 |
Minion of Satan
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Wow id like to debate with Trostki on that because I've been living in Montreal's hipster neighborhood over ten years now.
Anyway I kinda agree with vix. Especially about the conditioning part. for the record my mom started dating my dad when she was 16. He was 27. (and she says she pursued him). That was early 70's so not the middle ages. Everyone was fine with that. My mom's parents were a bit unsure at first but it became clear my dad was not a predator. Their children ended up fin.............ok no they didn't but that had little to do with this i'm sure. More to do with the bad genes on my mom's side when it comes to mental health (she's the most normal of them all too) But they had a normal marital life that ended up with a divorce after nearly 25 years. you know, like most people. |
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05-04-2014, 05:43 PM | #28 | |
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Like, you really can't think of why your kids shouldn't be married off at 10 years old except "ew"? |
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05-04-2014, 05:47 PM | #29 | |
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05-04-2014, 06:18 PM | #30 |
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Wtf does "the left" mean
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