Has there been a musical genius in our lifetime (how about Corgan)?

morespsoon · 04-16-2012, 02:33 AM

I used to think Billy Corgan is a musical genius but someone on this site made a very argument for why he's not. If the standard for genius is whether people will be playing your music 200 years after your death, I don't think Billy Corgan fits the bill.

In fact, in my opinion, the only artist I think fits that description is John Williams. I pick him because his Star Wars work alone is legendary and will live on forever and that doesn't mention what he's done for other films.

What do you think?

Starla · 04-16-2012, 02:40 AM

Prince

Esty · 04-16-2012, 02:42 AM

Michael Jackson

Catherine Wheel · 04-16-2012, 02:59 AM

David Byrne
Brian Eno
Gary Numan
Robert Smith
Peter Gabriel

emilem · 04-16-2012, 04:12 AM

prince, eno, aphex twin, i can go on all night, what's your point?

fuck john williams, fuck star wars. are you 12?

teh b0lly!!1 · 04-16-2012, 04:19 AM

mike byrne

Cool As Ice Cream · 04-16-2012, 04:33 AM

justin bieber

Trotskilicious · 04-16-2012, 05:15 AM

robyn is a goddamn pop genius

Cool As Ice Cream · 04-16-2012, 06:11 AM

mindy "skinflute" strawberry

Mablak · 04-16-2012, 06:21 AM

Ah, skinflute Mindy. 200 years? She'll be around alright, she'll be around.

Cool As Ice Cream · 04-16-2012, 06:30 AM

jonathan "montelds gay closet micropenis mormon lds www.monteit.com stealin' for jesus monkey suit date ethical stalking so u think ur all that" monte

Trotskilicious · 04-16-2012, 06:45 AM

alex buecherle child rape micropenis andrew pakula to catch a predator

morespsoon · 04-16-2012, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

alex buecherle child rape micropenis andrew pakula to catch a predator

Is this supposed to be some kind of joke?

I find it to be very offensive if so.

Cool As Ice Cream · 04-16-2012, 07:01 AM

more "biggest www.lemonparty.org fanboy" spoons

Trotskilicious · 04-16-2012, 07:36 AM

i find your idiotic musings on rock music to be offensive, morespoon

soniclovenoize · 04-16-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morespsoon

I used to think Billy Corgan is a musical genius but someone on this site made a very argument for why he's not. If the standard for genius is whether people will be playing your music 200 years after your death, I don't think Billy Corgan fits the bill.

In fact, in my opinion, the only artist I think fits that description is John Williams. I pick him because his Star Wars work alone is legendary and will live on forever and that doesn't mention what he's done for other films.

What do you think?

But if that is your criteria for legendary status, the only reason John Williams would be known in 200 years would be for his involvement in Star Wars the film, not because of the music itself. It's like guilt by association. It could have been Danny Elfman who did the music, and Danny would have been the legend, not Williams.

Trotskilicious · 07:54 AM

honestly saying a composer is a genius because of a movie score is a fucking joke in the first place

Trotskilicious · 07:54 AM

THEY TOLD ME THAT THE CLASSICS NEVER GO OUT OF STYLE BUT THEY DO, THEY DO.

reprise85 · 04-16-2012, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

honestly saying a composer is a genius because of a movie score is a fucking joke in the first place

shouldnt it be about the actual music and not what it is used for?

Trotskilicious · 04-16-2012, 08:23 AM

right but when it's a music score for an iconic film how can you ever separate them?

Trotskilicious · 04-16-2012, 08:24 AM

do you think someone who doesn't know what star wars is would find the score to star wars special? I kind of don't think so. Many people are fond of it because it makes them remember the movie and such.

Morlock · 04-16-2012, 08:26 AM

Paul McCartney.

BlissedandGone2 · 04-16-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize

But if that is your criteria for legendary status, the only reason John Williams would be known in 200 years would be for his involvement in Star Wars the film, not because of the music itself. It's like guilt by association. It could have been Danny Elfman who did the music, and Danny would have been the legend, not Williams.

I know you're probably just picking another popular film scorer/composer for arguments sake, but no, it couldn't have been Danny Elfman who did the music for Star Wars.

Ball Sack Face · 04-16-2012, 10:28 AM

Boots Randolph

Ball Sack Face · 04-16-2012, 10:29 AM

The Talking Heads

Ball Sack Face · 04-16-2012, 10:29 AM

Fall Out Boy

Ball Sack Face · 04-16-2012, 10:29 AM

Wesley Willis

hnibos · 04-16-2012, 11:03 AM

Mariah Carey

Catherine Wheel · 04-16-2012, 12:16 PM

How exactly is Prince a genius? Granted he's a good songwriter but genius really?

Cool As Ice Cream · 04-16-2012, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catherine Wheel

How exactly is Prince a genius? Granted he's a good songwriter but genius really?

Robert Smith

04-16-2012, 02:33 AM	#1
morespsoon Ownz Posts: 937	Has there been a musical genius in our lifetime (how about Corgan)? I used to think Billy Corgan is a musical genius but someone on this site made a very argument for why he's not. If the standard for genius is whether people will be playing your music 200 years after your death, I don't think Billy Corgan fits the bill. In fact, in my opinion, the only artist I think fits that description is John Williams. I pick him because his Star Wars work alone is legendary and will live on forever and that doesn't mention what he's done for other films. What do you think?

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,643	right but when it's a music score for an iconic film how can you ever separate them?

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