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Old 06-30-2018, 06:10 PM   #91
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Old 06-30-2018, 06:11 PM   #92
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you know what the n stands for?

 
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Old 06-30-2018, 06:11 PM   #93
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nowledge

 
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Old 06-30-2018, 06:32 PM   #94
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damn I always wondered what the n stood for

 
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:27 PM   #95
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Old 07-01-2018, 09:09 AM   #96
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The thought of Maynard being a groupie guy is gross af.

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:13 AM   #97
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girl (labelle), please stop pretending women that age are brainless and incapable of making decisions for better or worse
100 %.

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:15 AM   #98
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Ofc you can disagree all you want, but you are removing what I said from the context that "this guy is abusing his position to get sex and I think that's gross" and misconstruing it as an attack on women which is not what I was getting at at all.
Guys. I'm sure LaBelle has been thousands of situations where she saw male bandmembers take advantage of her being a fan.

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Old 07-01-2018, 10:16 AM   #99
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In this bullshit society of cultural censorship you can't say shit without toxic feminists and leftist jumping at your throat, trying to portray you as some sort of monster.

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Old 07-01-2018, 10:17 AM   #100
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I'm not even a fucking conservative, but fuck your controlling and self-righteous way of judging people. And fuck Maynard too.

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:26 AM   #101
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puzzelmuzzle, you don't need to repeat yourself every week.

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Petition to ban LaBelle bcuz forced feminism and leftist garbage opinions.
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Today I learned LaBelle daily searches the words "feminism" and "sexism" on Google in order to find dumb shit that will somehow ascertain her political opinions and convince herself that she is right in these ideological matters.

as other "retarded mods" have told you before - go fuck yourself, if you manage that. nice edits, btw.

- greetings to Sweden from another toxic feminazi

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:13 AM   #102
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he's swedish? didn't he claim to be african american?

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 02:47 PM   #103
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I'm not even a fucking conservative
you pretty obviously are an anti-feminist dickbag though

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 02:48 PM   #104
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like god forbid women get upset at men being creepy, it's not like they've been oppressed for thousands of years by men or anything. why can't they just calm down?

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Old 07-01-2018, 03:01 PM   #105
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that's not what any has told her.

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 05:39 PM   #106
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yo what's up i'm a man
I have a penis AMA

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 08:00 PM   #107
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For what it's worth, if I may try and clear the air a bit.
On my first post in this thread I said that people could take the accusation seriously without crucifying Maynard before the accusation gets confirmed. I never assumed he was guilty or wanted to come across as condemning him as a person.

The whole point that I was trying to make after that was that the way he conducts himself with his fans rubs me the wrong way if it matches what was described on the reddit post by tooldvn included on this article. Some people agree that it's potentially problematic, some people don't and that's great, again nothing that is described there is a crime and if people willingly participate then it's really no harm no foul regardless of what my own personal hangups might be.

People mistook that as me commenting on the rape accusation, me condemning groupies as a whole and the thing snowballed a lot more than it should. I only realized when rereading a bit later that on my knee-jerk reaction I poorly expressed what I wanted to say and was very much in the wrong so I apologized for that.

I know I won't change anyone's minds about me and if people think I come across as a sanctimonious asshole then that's that. But to me that's a sign that I should really refrain from expressing my opinions going forward unless I can be 100% clear about what I mean and don't let my emotions get in the way.

And honestly I enjoy a few of A Perfect Circle's songs and think Maynard is very talented regardless of him doing things I consider to be objectionable or not. I'm not passing the same kind of judgement on him as I would if the accusations held water and were numerous enough to become undeniable by him.

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Old 07-01-2018, 09:32 PM   #108
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well said

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 09:47 PM   #109
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now you've displayed weakness, never apologize

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 09:52 PM   #110
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I know I won't change anyone's minds about me and if people think I come across as a sanctimonious asshole then that's that. But to me that's a sign that I should really refrain from expressing my opinions going forward unless I can be 100% clear about what I mean and don't let my emotions get in the way.
Really only one poster here thinks that about you, and nobody here likes that guy anyway, so I'd say you're doing okay.

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 09:59 PM   #111
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Also, I should probably clarify that I'm not claiming that Tool Guy isn't a rapist, as I don't know either way. Just that the behaviour described in that post by the guy defending him doesn't sound exploitative, so I take issue with the claim that "even assuming that post is 100% true, it's still non-consensual/exploitative."

It's still very possible that post by the guy defending him isn't true or is incomplete, and the guy is a predator.

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:01 PM   #112
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now you've displayed weakness, never apologize
Thanks, John Wayne.

 
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:21 PM   #113
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This is kind of like the findom thing.

If a dude gets off on being exploited for money by a woman...
...and a woman gets satisfaction from being paid to berate some guy...
Is there a problem?

Technically no, since they're both consenting adults. But in reality the right thing to do would be for the woman to tell the man to get therapy, not exploit him.

 
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:03 AM   #114
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There's a lot of ways in which sex can be exploitative while still being completely consensual.

But it's also incredibly difficult to articulate this without coming across as being prudish, prejudiced or making broad generalizations. And as usual when discussing gray areas it's not necessarily an indictment of anyone's character, but more an acknowledgement that maybe it's not totally healthy for the people involved.

 
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Old 07-02-2018, 02:49 AM   #115
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If we could just avoid the phrase "going forward," I can deal.

Must have lost a good few millimeters of smile from the gritting it induces.

 
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:48 AM   #116
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Going forward, I will try and not use that term..

 
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:58 AM   #117
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There's always something...

 
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:18 PM   #118
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why does the thread title say "IN HELL" if the guy is not dead yet

i care so little about his music that it took me this long to realize he's still alive

 
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Old 07-02-2018, 12:56 PM   #119
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or at least he fucken should be

https://tonedeaf.com.au/tool-maynard...exual-assault/



Not gonna post the statement here cause it's pretty graphic. Fuck this dude forever.
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Old 07-02-2018, 03:29 PM   #120
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I came to this thread to say that a few weeks back, my bandmate told me that Tool Guy was a serial rapist who preyed on young women he invited backstage after shows, and then this thread happened, so it must be true

 
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