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Old 06-28-2018, 02:42 AM   #1
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Default Maynard James Keenan being a creepy shithead IN HELL

or at least he fucken should be

https://tonedeaf.com.au/tool-maynard...exual-assault/

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An anonymous woman has come forward alleging Tool’s Maynard James Keenan of raping her when she was 17, backstage at an A Perfect Circle/ Nine Inch Nails show in 2000. Taking to Twitter under the name of “@IWas17HeWas36″ the story has since been shared multiple times around the platform.

The woman described her experience of being lead backstage without her boyfriend, into a private room with Maynard in which he performed non-consensual sexual intercourse whilst the two watched a movie. She has said that 18 years on, she is still, “working through the trauma of that assault.”
Not gonna post the statement here cause it's pretty graphic. Fuck this dude forever.

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 03:39 AM   #2
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lol relax dude, it's all coming from an ANONYMOUS TWITTER ACCOUNT, at least save the death wishes for when it's actually confirmed. or at least until someone files an actual lawsuit. right now it's no more real than your average internet hoax.

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 04:17 AM   #3
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I bet that sorta behavior is common place with A LOT of bands.

A very popular band in Canada called Hedley just went down because of a similar scandal. Once someone came forward people came pouring forward with similar stories. Radio won't play their music anymore and shit. Seems they're finished.

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/hedl..._another_woman

For a long time that "rock star" lifestyle was just common place and glamorized. While I'm sure there's a lot of girls that are down for the experience, there's also young girls that aren't prepared for what's going to go down like the girl in the Maynard article, as I'm sure Maynard would rationalize that she willingly came to meet him and came to his bed and that it was consensual.

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 05:17 AM   #4
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the article on ultimate-guitar has some pretty interesting info too.
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"It's not true. OK, so I'm just another guy on the internet, but I've had the privilege of getting backstage on more than a few separate occasions for both Tool & APC. I am somewhat well known taper, been to 103 Tool shows, and 50+ APC shows, 20+ Pusicfer shows. I've got the passes to prove it, I was even given one of the Maynard harem passes because they were out of the standard ones.
I also have had 2 female friends (age 20 & 23 at the time) pass muster and get to sleep with Maynard and have gotten all the details. One ended up being a repeat contact because she lived in LA and could participate with him there when off tour.

1. First off, there is and was no blonde heavy set woman who acted as his handler for this. Women do receive special passes, but they were handed out from his all male security staff.

2. The security staff checks IDs. If you are not of age, you do not get to go backstage. 17, though 'legal' in some states, does not make the cut. Full stop.

3. Passes for Maynard are different than the normal backstage pass for the show. A couple examples I can think of (and one I own that I received personally when they were out of normal ones) has a collage of women in KISS makeup sucking dick or other sexual acts. An APC one had a picture of Maynard in Roman garb that said 'Have you serviced your gladiator today?' or something similar. There are no illusions about what you are there for.

4. All backstage people are brought backstage to 1 or 2 rooms. Sometimes the Maynard groupies are brought to a separate room. It's never 1 woman alone. The smallest group I saw was 5 or 6 women, but could be up to 20. Maynard makes an appearance in the room, might make some chitchat, and then leaves. His security staff will then approach whichever 1 or 2 women that Maynard has selected for the night and tell them that Maynard would like them to come back to the bus or the hotel for the night.

5. Both experiences recounted to me, from two women who do not know each other, Maynard was caring, slow and gentle. There was no pressure. He is interested in anal as you would assume, but did not with the one because she never had. Again, no pressure. This act ended up happening later when she was one of his regulars in LA.

6. After the act, both women had nothing but good things to say about him and about the security staff (Making sure they were OK to leave the area and had some transportation as they left).

So you take those 2 accounts, and also what I saw happen in general with the process other times backstage, make the accusers account incredibly hard to believe. For the guy down below in the thread who's girlfriend was weirded out for not letting her BF backstage with her, I hope you understand by now that Maynard does not and will not meet normal Tool fans. Never.

Has he appeared at any of the Tool clinics? No. Has he ever appeared at any of the APC VIP events? No. I only met him once backstage and he was not thrilled with my concert total. Actually told me that I shouldn't see them that many times. The meeting only happened because I was in with a group of family for another person on the crew.

I haven't been backstage since he's been married, so I don't know if his groupie whoring has continued. I don't think he should be demonized for this behavior. Yeah it sucks that he doesn't want to meet the casual fan to have them gush over his music, but it doesn't make me want to listen to them less."
I mean, the whole groupie whoring was never a secret but this, if true, at least gives some interesting insight into how it all used to go down.

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 06:56 AM   #5
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Toxic masculinity: rockstar edition

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:27 AM   #6
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Whodda thunk the guy that wrote Stinkfist and Prison Sex would be such a weirdo in the sack?

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:50 AM   #7
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what's so weird about anal?

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:50 AM   #8
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tbch maynard being a creepy shithead doesn't really have anything to do with any alleged rape allegations anyhoo

i mean he named his band Tool for a reason amirite or amirite?

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:01 AM   #9
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Mayonnaise+Mustard=Maynard

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:03 AM   #10
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can i get some maynard, lettuce, and onions, pls?

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:46 AM   #11
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open ur eyes

to these maynard lies

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 01:38 PM   #12
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what's so weird about anal?
Nothing. I am a proud lover of buttstuff. Did you actually read the accusations against him and the tales of him preying on groupies posted in this thread/in the link?

He fucking whipped it out during a screening of Happy Gilmore. Guy's not right.

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 04:36 PM   #13
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I myself was pretty confused when two female coworkers agreed with each other on finding Adam Sandler "hot."

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 04:38 PM   #14
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I mean, he's not ugly. He just looks like your best friend in middle school's dad.

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 04:49 PM   #15
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but that dad was pretty hot

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 04:50 PM   #16
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:29 PM   #17
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between this guy and Billy Corgan, we can now say for sure James Iha really knows how to cherrypick the people he works with, eh guys?

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:31 PM   #18
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between this guy and Billy Corgan, we can now say for sure James Iha really knows how to cherrypick the people he works with, eh guys?
Hey, don't forget he also played alongside Twiggy in APC.

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:32 PM   #19
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BC: "My girlfriend is a dominatrix, you know what I mean?"

 
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:33 PM   #20
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i think the Shiny And Oh So Bright: Chromedome Chronicles Broadway Reunion tour just got a hell of a lot longer


just imagine how jeff is feeling right now

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Old 06-28-2018, 11:52 PM   #21
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:59 PM   #22
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plus the music is supah bad

 
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Old 06-29-2018, 12:02 AM   #23
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Another anonymous twitter account accusing Trent Reznor of rape in 1994 was created before, but within the same hour, as the MJK accuser's account.

 
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Saying the accusations against himself "damage the #metoo movement" is a pretty crafty move. Allows him to deny the accusations while still framing himself as on the side of believing victims.

Not that I'm necessarily saying he's lying. There's no available evidence either way, so I'm not claiming to know shit.

 
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Another anonymous twitter account accusing Trent Reznor of rape in 1994 was created before, but within the same hour, as the MJK accuser's account.
Right here

 
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Old 06-29-2018, 09:47 AM   #26
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the article on ultimate-guitar has some pretty interesting info too.


I mean, the whole groupie whoring was never a secret but this, if true, at least gives some interesting insight into how it all used to go down.
Whether the victim on Twitter is telling the truth or not (and I default to believing her), the account above is pretty damning. The person is trying to defend Maynard, but he still comes across as a creep who manufactures vulnerable situations to prey on young girls.

 
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Whether the victim on Twitter is telling the truth or not (and I default to believing her)
Gross. Fuck this group-think mob mentality bullshit. Literally no evidence, no past reports, or anything, and you default to believe "her" lol

Literally anyone can create a false Twitter handle and make allegations like these. All they need is an imagination to give specifics. Details that have no base in reality in the first place, and were totally inconsistent with actual truth.

This "her" you speak of is 99% likely to be this idiot fucking man-child who is probably butt hurt that Tool's new album isn't coming out till next year https://imgur.com/gallery/TJBFtt5

Find something legitimate to be outraged over, this is some Alex Jones level cringe guys.

This very same thing could happen to Billy this afternoon and you would all believe it.

 
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Gross. Fuck this group-think mob mentality bullshit. Literally no evidence, no past reports, or anything, and you default to believe "her" lol

Literally anyone can create a false Twitter handle and make allegations like these. All they need is an imagination to give specifics. Details that have no base in reality in the first place, and were totally inconsistent with actual truth.

This "her" you speak of is 99% likely to be this idiot fucking man-child who is probably butt hurt that Tool's new album isn't coming out till next year https://imgur.com/gallery/TJBFtt5

Find something legitimate to be outraged over, this is some Alex Jones level cringe guys.

This very same thing could happen to Billy this afternoon and you would all believe it.
I would never buy Billy as a rapist. He'd talk the woman out of the room with his rambling bullshit before he got that far.

 
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Whether the victim on Twitter is telling the truth or not (and I default to believing her), the account above is pretty damning. The person is trying to defend Maynard, but he still comes across as a creep who manufactures vulnerable situations to prey on young girls.
That's the thing: even if it's not "rape" it definitely aligns with previous stories and rumors. It's becoming a Louis CK situation where it's clear that the guy is a creep. What level creep he really is remains to be seen/proven, I suppose.

 
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it's kind of sadly hilarious to see how people latch their own entire worldviews, rooted in chauvinism/misogyny/feminism/feminazism, on a situation where it is 100% unclear speculation either way, where it is impossible to ascertain anything at all as fact or lie in any form.

the way i see it, if your response to these type of situations is anything more than "i wonder what really happened there", then you're some kind of an idiot, enforcing your dichotomic thinking on a situation that is so obscure, it's basically hypothetical and really only serves as mirror for whoever is commenting on it.

eagerness to 'default to believing' anyone who will generate any claim that renders them a victim will say something about you and your character, just as much as dismissing and attacking any potential claim by somebody, and calling it bullshit right out the gate will say something about you and your character. either way, with such a minimal amount of information, it no longer has anything to do with what actually happened, and is solely about you and your views and biases, and is at that point no more than outrage porn. the people's new favorite hobby these days.

 
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