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08-30-2018, 05:30 AM | #61 |
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With a mention of "Ghosts", I'm gonna say this song is about the illusion of fame and it's trappings.
WHITE LABS ARE COOKING UP THE SILVER GHOST |
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08-30-2018, 11:39 AM | #62 |
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AS SHE COUNTED THE SPECTERS
AS THEY CRAWLED UP HER RECTUM |
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09-02-2018, 02:30 AM | #63 |
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09-02-2018, 10:27 AM | #64 |
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I hate the cover. It reminds me of nazi-style.
Funny that people who try to be so spiritual (like billy) are so easily irritated by questions on instagram. Why cant he just admit that mtae is a 2 star record. Why cant he admit that he couldnt write one great album since 2000? 18 years no real success- honestly that's hard to take |
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09-02-2018, 10:46 AM | #65 |
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the problem is that he has "success" (making a hit album that appeals to the mainstream) confused with success (making good music that sells enough to enable him to survive).
he should talk to boris. they would straighten him out. |
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09-02-2018, 11:13 AM | #66 | |
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That being said, in this moment of fascist re-emergence, it seems like a poor art direction to go it. But hey, its BELLY. |
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09-02-2018, 11:34 AM | #67 |
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I showed the cover my grandfather 95y. He said "fuckibg nazis". He was forced to join with 17 years. Or they would have shot him. He was and still is against nazis.
But the art- cover- reminds him of that horrible time. Slowly i get it: billy supports trump, mancow and the other radio asshole. And now this nazi cover. My hopes are low because solara is so embarrassing and the new song recorded at the same time. Lokkn foward to your comments on sept.13th |
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09-02-2018, 12:01 PM | #68 | |
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09-02-2018, 12:03 PM | #69 | |
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That being said, assholes with white supremacy sympathies use this art today. I think that Billy is dumb to choose this in 2018, when the neo-nazi associations out power other possible interpretations. Linda Strawberry as Leni Riefenstahl. Unless Billy starts using swastikas I probably won’t change my opinion on this. |
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09-02-2018, 12:04 PM | #70 |
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are you a nazi like your gandpa?
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09-02-2018, 12:35 PM | #71 |
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09-02-2018, 12:39 PM | #72 |
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small valleys in the west of austria...
HOT DAMN: A VORALBERGER!!!! |
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09-02-2018, 12:40 PM | #73 |
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my grandpa was a partisan gorilla btw. he ate nazi liver for brunch.
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09-02-2018, 01:13 PM | #74 |
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on youtube before the 13 ?
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09-02-2018, 01:19 PM | #75 |
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you think this is a game?
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09-02-2018, 01:29 PM | #76 |
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LOOK HERE. YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN IF IT WASN'T FOR AMERICANS. SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT.
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09-02-2018, 01:35 PM | #77 |
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I respect you less- you voted an asshole for president. America became a mess.
Glad living in belgrad |
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09-02-2018, 01:41 PM | #78 |
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Aleksandar Vučić (your president) said: “for every Serb killed, we will kill 100 Muslims”
Billy doesn't need you or your country for fans. |
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09-02-2018, 02:26 PM | #79 |
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Jeez people. Shitty leaders all over the world, but let’s keep our focus on what unites us, not divides us: Billy bein’ a poop.
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09-02-2018, 02:33 PM | #80 |
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Has someone sent Billy his Netphoria welcome pack and membership card?
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09-02-2018, 02:43 PM | #81 | |
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09-02-2018, 02:44 PM | #82 |
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NUKE CRAOTIA
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09-02-2018, 03:25 PM | #83 |
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09-02-2018, 03:27 PM | #84 |
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The vague similarities to art styles associated with Nazi Germany wouldn't be as uncomfortable if not for recent political trends and the crowd Corgan has been palling around with for the past few years. I mean, it's not like Nazis have the monopoly on these aesthetic elements, but… timing.
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09-02-2018, 03:44 PM | #85 |
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Single cover reminds me of the title card for the Nazi propaganda programme 'Die Deutsche Wochenschau'....or half a dozen other things from the 1930s/40s.
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09-02-2018, 05:06 PM | #86 |
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I don't think it's just the use of Art Deco that's reminiscent of Nazi imagery. Art Deco is ubiquitous, and not everything that recalls it looks Naziish.
I mean, there are several elements of Art Deco that probably run contrary to the Nazi Germany artistic ethos, anyway. The focus on abstracting forms to simple but striking stylistic elements, rather than following the classical Greek and Roman practices of striving for idealized realism. The influence of modernity and opulence, which Nazis might see as decadent and materialistic. However, the Nazis themselves weren't very consistent on what was considered "good" and "bad" art; there were a lot of contradictions and lots of flip-flopping on particular styles and works (Futura going from a banned typeface to being used on official Nazi publications, for instance). I think the thing that makes the art feel more Naziish are those really idealized, classical elements (majestic wings, classical hero figures), that just happen to also be Deco-ized. I'm more discussing this out of armchair interest; I'm not actually condemning the art as irresponsible or anything just because it kinda maybe reminds me of Nazis a little bit. The most offensive thing about the album art is the fact that the fonts are butt-ugly. |
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09-02-2018, 05:12 PM | #87 |
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Also, are we expecting any of the new releases to actually be recent material worked on with Iha and Chamberlin, or is this mostly going to be shit cut from Elegies to a Monument and Day for Night? Because I see no reason why I'd wanna hear outtakes from those albums when I the albums themselves weren't even enticing enough for me to check them out.
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09-02-2018, 05:19 PM | #88 |
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09-02-2018, 05:20 PM | #89 |
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To be honest, he desparetely needs any fans.
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09-02-2018, 05:26 PM | #90 |
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