Is being five minutes early

vixnix · 08-08-2017, 02:15 PM

Being on time?

Bread Regal · 08-08-2017, 02:19 PM

Cool As Ice Cream · 08-08-2017, 02:19 PM

depends.
who are you meeting? what is their nationality? where are you meeting them? what are you up to?

Skradgee · 08-08-2017, 02:29 PM

Yeah, it depends. I had a prick boss who insisted on getting to work 5 minutes "early". Getting there at 7:57am was unacceptable. He's not managing anymore.

ohnoitsbonnie · 08-08-2017, 02:31 PM

On time for me but in a casual sense

redbreegull · 08-08-2017, 03:03 PM

I resist American conceptions of timeliness because I hate them and I don't feel anyone has the right to monopolize my time. If I have to show up early for something to prepare that is fine, but I will not show up early to shit all the time just because it's considered polite to freely give more of my time than agreed upon to someone else. My time is valuable and it belongs to me.

LaBelle · 08-08-2017, 03:11 PM

Idk, I'm always 5 minutes late.

Fashionably late they call it.

Cool As Ice Cream · 08-08-2017, 03:11 PM

in other cases, being too early is considered impolite.

Cool As Ice Cream · 08-08-2017, 03:12 PM

being five minutes late is not a good start to a job interview.
unless it's a job in fashion, i guess.

LaBelle · 08-08-2017, 03:14 PM

For work i'm always punctual, though.

LaBelle · 08-08-2017, 03:15 PM

If someone is throwing a party at their place, and you don't know the host that well being early can lead to some very awkward conversation before everyone else arrives.

Cool As Ice Cream · 08-08-2017, 03:19 PM

it's always better not to be early if it's a party at someone's house. at least that's how it goes here. the host might not be ready themselves.
i've heard that in germany, it's often expected to be on time or even early. weird.

Bread Regal · 08-08-2017, 03:25 PM

i am habitually late for everything. so in recent years i have deliberately made a point of arriving 10-20 minutes early, mostly because this is the best way to avoid being late, which is way more annoying for others than being early is annoying for me.

plus, if you are early to a meeting with a lot of people this opens up opportunities for developing relationships with other people before getting down to business.

Bread Regal · 08-08-2017, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

it's always better not to be early if it's a party at someone's house. at least that's how it goes here. the host might not be ready themselves.
i've heard that in germany, it's often expected to be on time or even early. weird.

a while ago i roadie'd for a band that was basically all european and latin american. i got invited to the bandleader's christmas party at 5pm and it was just me and the bandleader until literally everyone else showed at 6:30pm.

it was awkward as hell

Elphenor · 08-08-2017, 03:35 PM

Yeah I always shoot for 30 minutes early for that reason and also because I just get anxious before I have to go anywhere and can't enjoy the time before I have to leave

ohnoitsbonnie · 08-08-2017, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I resist American conceptions of timeliness because I hate them and I don't feel anyone has the right to monopolize my time. If I have to show up early for something to prepare that is fine, but I will not show up early to shit all the time just because it's considered polite to freely give more of my time than agreed upon to someone else. My time is valuable and it belongs to me.

Other people's time matters too

redbreegull · 08-08-2017, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohnoitsbonnie

Other people's time matters too

sorry not sorry

ohnoitsbonnie · 08-08-2017, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

it's always better not to be early if it's a party at someone's house. at least that's how it goes here. the host might not be ready themselves.
i've heard that in germany, it's often expected to be on time or even early. weird.

This is true. I will show up later to casual events like this and with a dessert if appropriate

redbreegull · 08-08-2017, 03:40 PM

If I show up to work 5 minutes early I go get coffee or walk around the block.

ohnoitsbonnie · 08-08-2017, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbreegull

sorry not sorry

We should always think of others and treat them the way we'd like to be treated, even if we're not

ohnoitsbonnie · 08-08-2017, 03:41 PM

Although I don't like how time has become so very important and if I don't do anything I feel like I'm wasting it

redbreegull · 08-08-2017, 03:45 PM

like most normal people I try to not be late for things where it is important for me to be on time.

but I don't show up early for work to "look good" or shit like that. I'm just over it.

ohnoitsbonnie · 08-08-2017, 03:45 PM

Fair enough

reprise85 · 08-08-2017, 05:07 PM

i tend to show up 5-10 minutes early for things i'm familiar with. doctors i've been to, therapy, etc. other things i usually am 15-20 minutes. work i always get to really early because i eat. breakfast in my car. my weekend ritual is leave the house at 5:20, go to work and get breakfast at the dunkin donuts in the parking lot. by this time it is 5:35ish and then i get out of my car at 5:55 and go punch in

Cool As Ice Cream · 08-08-2017, 06:10 PM

what kind of breakfast is that, repri? doesn't sound very good.

fuzzyroes · 08-08-2017, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaBelle

Idk, I'm always 5 minutes late.

Fashionably late they call it.

Me too. One of the few perks of working a crappy job is that no one cares.

reprise85 · 08-08-2017, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

what kind of breakfast is that, repri? doesn't sound very good.

usually a bagel with cream cheese or some kind of breakfast wrap/burrito

Shallowed · 08-08-2017, 08:54 PM

Better to be 5 minutes early than one minute late

reprise85 · 08-08-2017, 09:13 PM

i used to be so obsessed with being on time. like being late would make me freak out. even like 2 minutes late. i'm better now. for the first couple years i saw my therapist i was never ever late

vixnix · 08-08-2017, 09:41 PM

I'm very forgiving of people when they are late. Sometimes I think I let myself run late as a test of how forgiving other people are.

I think a rigid adherence to the timing of most social plans makes a gathering or meet up more awkward than people being late.

Let's say an event is booked for 1:00pm - 3:00pm. By the "five minutes early is on time" logic, we would consider it polite for everybody to be there by 12:55pm. People who arrive at 1:02pm, a mere 120 seconds after the designated start time, are already considered late.

People who arrive at 1:15pm without a good explanation (traffic incident, injury, force majeure, etc.) are probably considered rude.

At this stage, some of those people (we all know people like this) who organised their day around a 1:00pm-3:00pm agreed event time, feel annoyed by those who turned up fifteen minutes late. They begin to make assumptions about that person's character, about their upbringing, their values.

I do agree that it would be great if everybody could turn up at 12:55pm. But, you know. It would be great if every blue collar worker was paid a living wage for an honest day's work. It would be great if car sales people didn't lie. We don't live in a "it would be great if" kind of world. We live in a "some of the apes have turned against the others" kind of world, and in that setting, forgiving somebody for turning up to a place a certain number of minutes after the agreed time, might be more useful and human, than insisting that they have committed a wrong against you by not adequately prioritising the agreement that was made, to arrive at the destination, 5 minutes before the start time.

08-08-2017, 02:15 PM	#1
vixnix Socialphobic Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria Posts: 12,467	Is being five minutes early Being on time?

08-08-2017, 02:19 PM	#2
Bread Regal Banned Posts: 5,711	Yes

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08-08-2017, 02:19 PM	#3
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	depends. who are you meeting? what is their nationality? where are you meeting them? what are you up to?

08-08-2017, 02:29 PM	#4
Skradgee Boardcaster Location: reporting live Posts: 3,854	Yeah, it depends. I had a prick boss who insisted on getting to work 5 minutes "early". Getting there at 7:57am was unacceptable. He's not managing anymore.

08-08-2017, 02:31 PM	#5
ohnoitsbonnie Banned Location: somerville, nj Posts: 23,382	On time for me but in a casual sense

08-08-2017, 03:03 PM	#6
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	I resist American conceptions of timeliness because I hate them and I don't feel anyone has the right to monopolize my time. If I have to show up early for something to prepare that is fine, but I will not show up early to shit all the time just because it's considered polite to freely give more of my time than agreed upon to someone else. My time is valuable and it belongs to me.

08-08-2017, 03:11 PM	#7
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,398	Idk, I'm always 5 minutes late. Fashionably late they call it.

08-08-2017, 03:12 PM	#9
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	being five minutes late is not a good start to a job interview. unless it's a job in fashion, i guess.

08-08-2017, 03:14 PM	#10
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,398	For work i'm always punctual, though.

08-08-2017, 03:15 PM	#11
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,398	If someone is throwing a party at their place, and you don't know the host that well being early can lead to some very awkward conversation before everyone else arrives.

08-08-2017, 03:19 PM	#12
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	it's always better not to be early if it's a party at someone's house. at least that's how it goes here. the host might not be ready themselves. i've heard that in germany, it's often expected to be on time or even early. weird.

08-08-2017, 03:25 PM	#13
Bread Regal Banned Posts: 5,711	i am habitually late for everything. so in recent years i have deliberately made a point of arriving 10-20 minutes early, mostly because this is the best way to avoid being late, which is way more annoying for others than being early is annoying for me. plus, if you are early to a meeting with a lot of people this opens up opportunities for developing relationships with other people before getting down to business.

08-08-2017, 03:35 PM	#15
Elphenor Braindead Location: TX Posts: 16,289	Yeah I always shoot for 30 minutes early for that reason and also because I just get anxious before I have to go anywhere and can't enjoy the time before I have to leave

08-08-2017, 03:40 PM	#19
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	If I show up to work 5 minutes early I go get coffee or walk around the block.

08-08-2017, 03:41 PM	#21
ohnoitsbonnie Banned Location: somerville, nj Posts: 23,382	Although I don't like how time has become so very important and if I don't do anything I feel like I'm wasting it

08-08-2017, 03:45 PM	#22
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	like most normal people I try to not be late for things where it is important for me to be on time. but I don't show up early for work to "look good" or shit like that. I'm just over it.

08-08-2017, 05:07 PM	#24
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	i tend to show up 5-10 minutes early for things i'm familiar with. doctors i've been to, therapy, etc. other things i usually am 15-20 minutes. work i always get to really early because i eat. breakfast in my car. my weekend ritual is leave the house at 5:20, go to work and get breakfast at the dunkin donuts in the parking lot. by this time it is 5:35ish and then i get out of my car at 5:55 and go punch in

08-08-2017, 06:10 PM	#25
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	what kind of breakfast is that, repri? doesn't sound very good.

08-08-2017, 08:54 PM	#28
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	Better to be 5 minutes early than one minute late

08-08-2017, 09:13 PM	#29
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	i used to be so obsessed with being on time. like being late would make me freak out. even like 2 minutes late. i'm better now. for the first couple years i saw my therapist i was never ever late

08-08-2017, 09:41 PM	#30
vixnix Socialphobic Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria Posts: 12,467	I'm very forgiving of people when they are late. Sometimes I think I let myself run late as a test of how forgiving other people are. I think a rigid adherence to the timing of most social plans makes a gathering or meet up more awkward than people being late. Let's say an event is booked for 1:00pm - 3:00pm. By the "five minutes early is on time" logic, we would consider it polite for everybody to be there by 12:55pm. People who arrive at 1:02pm, a mere 120 seconds after the designated start time, are already considered late. People who arrive at 1:15pm without a good explanation (traffic incident, injury, force majeure, etc.) are probably considered rude. At this stage, some of those people (we all know people like this) who organised their day around a 1:00pm-3:00pm agreed event time, feel annoyed by those who turned up fifteen minutes late. They begin to make assumptions about that person's character, about their upbringing, their values. I do agree that it would be great if everybody could turn up at 12:55pm. But, you know. It would be great if every blue collar worker was paid a living wage for an honest day's work. It would be great if car sales people didn't lie. We don't live in a "it would be great if" kind of world. We live in a "some of the apes have turned against the others" kind of world, and in that setting, forgiving somebody for turning up to a place a certain number of minutes after the agreed time, might be more useful and human, than insisting that they have committed a wrong against you by not adequately prioritising the agreement that was made, to arrive at the destination, 5 minutes before the start time.