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Old 11-08-2018, 01:05 PM   #301
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U funny fameboy.

You seem to be obsessed with mazi shit.
Beware of the fbi man. They are watching you.
Ride the rainbow my boy.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:05 PM   #302
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Man, it's kinda depressing to be reminded that Original Smashing Pumpkins and post-2000 Smashing Pumpkins are kinda the same band (well, it could be argued that this isn't "the real SP," but I think semantic arguments about what makes a band a band are boring and fruitless, as there are no real objective criteria to appeal to, so I'm just going to call them "the same band" for the purposes of expediency).

It's like my brain just compartmentalizes this shit, and I can enjoy pre-2000 SP without even remembering what they've become.

I only really check out the new material as a curiosity to see what they are up to. And the only thing that has motivated me to do even that is having more of the original lineup back. I had stopped really checking out the current SP happenings a few years ago.

After a decade of this stuff, it's hard to see why people are still holding out hope that "the next release may be better" and the band will be worth following again. I'm perfectly happy to check out shit like the reissues and tours like the last one, playing the classic shit, but beyond that, if I look at new SP material, it's not really with any hopes or expectations. It's just kinda more, "lol, I wonder what my favourite band sounds like now. Oh wow, it's terrible, haha."
I know. This popped up on my YouTube today and I was taken aback by how powerful it was after listening to “Malta.” When the original four were on top of their game (like 91-96), they were a fucking wrecking ball of pure visceral emotion. They were goth, alternative, metal, prog, shoegaze, and pop all bundled together in big volatile mess. Billy’s excessive ego and weird aesthetic tastes were on full display but always tempered by a hip sense of restraint (D’Arcy would NOT have let “Knights of Malta” pass.) For a brief moment there, the stars aligned and Smashing Pumpkins had killer run that very few bands could ever hope to equal. It’s probably unfair of us to expect 2018 Billy to be able to do anything remotely that special ever again. It’s a different time and he has different people around him. But the extent to which he has fallen into excessively bad taste truly is shocking.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:32 PM   #303
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In other news, this has aged surprisingly well by comparison:


 
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:33 PM   #304
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solara- Jimmy is doing too much!
KOM- Jimmy isn't doing enough!

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:35 PM   #305
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Weird. Sounds like a song by Noel Gallagher’s new band, only with Billy on vocals. It’s better than Solara and Silvery Something Or Another but it’s not great. The backing “la la la” vocals are annoying. I’d probably dig it if there was more electric guitar and less cello.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:50 PM   #306
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U funny fameboy.

You seem to be obsessed with mazi shit.
Beware of the fbi man. They are watching you.
Ride the rainbow my boy.
only said it once men

it was my first nazi joke on netphorian & i'm damn proud of it

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:52 PM   #307
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thank to many who have written me there thoughts and comments


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Old 11-08-2018, 01:57 PM   #308
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Doing nazi jokes is uncool.
Do you like malta?

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:00 PM   #309
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is that a nazi joke?

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:18 PM   #310
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Yeah that was my experience with REM as well after Berry left.

"Hmm, Up is actually way better than I expected, not bad."

Each subsequent album was more meh that I think I listened to the last 2 maybe twice each.
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The very last R.E.M. album was a pretty worthy goodbye. & they never stopped kicking unholy asses on the live stage - got to see 'em in '08 & it was fantastic
I thought Accelerate was fucking great and the last one was a HUGE let down. They should have just capped it with how kickass Accelerate is.

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Loved the last single "We All Go Back to Where We Belong"
yeah that is a great song

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:31 PM   #311
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In other news, this has aged surprisingly well by comparison:

Really feels like Zeitgeist was the last time Corgan could write riffy "rawk" songs. Like, they are underwhelming and not up to par with past Pumpkins rockers, but they don't have that cringy try-hard dad-rock feel that more recent attempts to bring the heaviness, like "Solara" do. The songs that tend to be less embarrassing from the new material are the ones that don't try to be heavy, pulse-pounding anthems, and opt for being more mellow or something (which is why I think tracks like "Oceania" and "Silvery Sometimes" end up feeling more earnest than "Quasar" or "Solara").

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:35 PM   #312
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Really feels like Zeitgeist was the last time Corgan could write riffy "rawk" songs. Like, they are underwhelming and not up to par with past Pumpkins rockers, but they don't have that cringy try-hard dad-rock feel that more recent attempts to bring the heaviness, like "Solara" do. The songs that tend to be less embarrassing from the new material are the ones that don't try to be heavy, pulse-pounding anthems, and opt for being more mellow or something (which is why I think tracks like "Oceania" and "Silvery Sometimes" end up feeling more earnest than "Quasar" or "Solara").
The Zeitgeist rockers are better than the Machina rockers by miles.

Unfortunately his vocals sounded like ass.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:02 PM   #313
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really love this. not kidding. groovey tune. different than his normal recent garbage. shows off his talent for songy type stuff.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:03 PM   #314
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Now that we have Trump and Malta, 2007 doesn’t seem so bad with George W and Zeitgeist. Who would have thought those would be the good old days?

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:40 PM   #315
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YouTube comments are disabled
Likes versus Dislikes totals are invisible

This is not a good sign, folks
You only do this when your song is getting slammed and don't want people to see that and be turned away from listening

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:43 PM   #316
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last time they did it preemptively with solara. pretty hilarious

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:47 PM   #317
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Well it must be bad when a band disables its brand new single YouTube video's comments and makes the likes/dislikes tallies invisible in a day.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:53 PM   #318
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Well it must be bad when a band disables its brand new single YouTube video's comments and makes the likes/dislikes tallies invisible in a day.

You think the sp (billy) disabled it because they are afraid of bad comments?

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:42 PM   #319
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The likes/dislikes were invisible from the start.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:43 PM   #320
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As well as the comments.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:08 PM   #321
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r u named after a coldplay song

don't lie

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:20 PM   #322
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I would almost take Coldplay over this shite

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:34 PM   #323
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The Zeitgeist rockers are better than the Machina rockers by miles.

Unfortunately his vocals sounded like ass.
hell no

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:36 PM   #324
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You think the sp (billy) disabled it because they are afraid of bad comments?
quick thinker!

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:49 PM   #325
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Comments/ratings are allowed only on the yesman.org upload of the material, hence the "amazing responses" they've all gotten re: Billson

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:03 PM   #326
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I would almost take Coldplay over this shite
oh there ain't no almost about it. silvery sometimes is coldplay-esque shit. the other two turds are actually worse than coldplay.

this some nickleback type shit yo.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:13 PM   #327
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solara- Jimmy is doing too much!
KOM- Jimmy isn't doing enough!
Marchin On has a drum breakdown with some typical Jimmy fills, similar to Solara. Its like he was like "hey that drum thing I do towards the end in Solara? Yeah, Im gonna do that shit here too, Bill." and Bills like "Yeah yeah go for it, Jim."

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:20 PM   #328
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Is with sympathy jazzy or something? Cause Jimmy co-wrote that one

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:23 PM   #329
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Is with sympathy jazzy or something? Cause Jimmy co-wrote that one
No. Doesn't even sound like he wrote it, sounds like something Bill would write. Some melodies sounded similar to some melodies in Archer from what I recall.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:40 PM   #330
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Self-important bullshit. Honestly, a waste of my time.
You’re just mad Billy’s been dragging you on IG

 
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