where the hell is this new album?

[Zer0 Hour]

I don’t get the love for Slow Dawn. It reminds me of that old Rod Stewart song where he sings about stalking a girl every night on the downtown train. But to each his own.

Anyway yeah, In My Body is great. It’s a tad long but one of the best tracks of that era.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

Thanks, but no, thanks. Not a fan of a lot of those. I especially HATE Slow Dawn. It sounds like a fucking Rod Stewart song. Real Love is awful too.

You remember when I said I like you?

I take it back. Fuck you real love is the shit

[houseofglass11]

In My Body sounds like early Cure, like it could've been on Faith.

[Zer0 Hour]

Originally Posted by reprise85

You remember when I said I like you?

I take it back. Fuck you real love is shit

Fixed that for ya

[shadow47]

Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

I don’t get the love for Slow Dawn. It reminds me of that old Rod Stewart song where he sings about stalking a girl every night on the downtown train. But to each his own.

Anyway yeah, In My Body is great. It’s a tad long but one of the best tracks of that era.

If you prefer IMB to SD, welp. Body goes NOWHERE, Slow Dawn is classic chord progression with a ripping solo, good lyrics and concise. "Get it"?

[shadow47]

Oh he said Real Love sucks too? Oh. Yeah just ignore then. Dude seriously...

[FoolofaTook]

slow dawn has a killer vibe. like you've been up all night on pills and wine and then you smoke a bowl for sunrise and watch the slow dawn. real love is a shoegaze rush.

am i the only one who loves saturnine?

[Shallowed]

I like Saturnine

I like how in that song and in Speed Kills, each chord change is just a single monolithic drone

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

I don’t get the love for Slow Dawn. It reminds me of that old Rod Stewart song where he sings about stalking a girl every night on the downtown train. But to each his own.

How do you feel about Lily?

[thedeadofnight]

Adore Saturnine >>>

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

I like Saturnine

I like how in that song and in Speed Kills, each chord change is just a single monolithic drone

yeah that shit is heavy, heart wrenching shit. it's like a nucleus of pain cocooned in fogs of psychadelium. or something.

adore saturnine blows tho.

[ninsp]

Slow Dawn rules
In My Body is a little long but has an unreal atmosphere

[mpp]

Originally Posted by reprise85

You remember when I said I like you?

I take it back. Fuck you real love is the shit

um yeah real love is amazing -- one of the best things billy wrote post-adore

[Zer0 Hour]

I think I’d like Real Love if he didn’t use that fuzzy static effect on it. I love it on White Spyder but it ruins Real Love for me. Machina Saturnine sounds like they recorded the whole thing standing under an air conditioner.

[thedeadofnight]

Cued up: "ihhhhhh um ahhhdeeeee"

[Shadaloo]

Real Love like White Spyder could stand to be a tad less blown out but still both great tracks.

Slow Dawn is one of my favorites. I've got good memories attached to it.

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

In My Body sounds like early Cure, like it could've been on Faith.

This might be exactly why I fucking love IMB

Really the only things off MII I skip over are Innosense every now and then, Le Deux Machina because in retrospect it feels like something along the lines of Ruby Pit Mix 3 - a sample from a bigger work (GATGC) in isolation, and I never listen to the MII version of Atom Bomb because it feels like a demo and the Try B-Side/Judas O version's infinitely better.

MII really is a great fucking album

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

Real Love like White Spyder could stand to be a tad less blown out but still both great tracks.

yeah, I'd love to hear versions that are somewhat cleaner, especially white spider is really fucked up in some places - to the point I can't really hear what is played, which is an abomination to God.

Especially since those riffs are so meaty.

[fluxequalsrad]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

slow dawn has a killer vibe. like you've been up all night on pills and wine and then you smoke a bowl for sunrise and watch the slow dawn. real love is a shoegaze rush.

All of this. I like that Slow Dawn has kind of a waltz feel. Sounds water logged. Very simple very sweet.

Real Love is criminally underrated and I'm sure its almost impossible to recreate live, but would be sick.

[fluxequalsrad]

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

Real Love like White Spyder could stand to be a tad less blown out but still both great tracks.

MII really is a great fucking album

I think it really suits Real Love to be as over saturated as it is. That bendy-woosh synth thing before the chorus tickles my brain.

Never cared much for Whyte Spyder, its kinda nu-metal... its interesting enough. Title sounds like some late 90s snowboard company.

[eviltimeban]

I always wondered was White Spyder supposed to sound like that, or was it just compressed too much when ripped from the vinyl? Be really interested in that Machina remaster!

[topleybird]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

adore saturnine blows tho.

I really like it as a companion to the other versions, like it doesn't really stand on its own but as a reprise it works

[brothahi4L]

slow dawn has a killer vibe. like you've been up all night on pills and wine and then you smoke a bowl for sunrise and watch the slow dawn. real love is a shoegaze rush.

am i the only one who loves saturnine?[/quote]

Love saturnine and slow dawn. Im with you

[enthusaroo]

Imagine if Billy just were to put out the Machina Reissue instead of the new EP. I'd be cool with that

[houseofglass11]

How dare you guys discuss Billy’s work in depth like this. Don’t you know you’re all untr00 fans according to solaraflame?

[Zer0 Hour]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

I always wondered was White Spyder supposed to sound like that, or was it just compressed too much when ripped from the vinyl? Be really interested in that Machina remaster!

Yeah I’ve always wondered that too. I also have trouble discerning which versions of certain Machina II songs are the “official” ones. Like there are two versions of Dross that are very similar, but the lyrics vary slightly (growin’ cold vs. growin’ old). Same with Glass and Cash Car Star. For CCS, I prefer the “my baby’s got three eyes” version because that line is so WTF. Not sure if that’s the offficial one or not though.

[FoolofaTook]

one of the cash car stars is on an ep the other is on the lp.

shattering ass has an album version and the FAEOMM version, i think.

[WeilandFan]

Billy said in his Instagram Q&A that the songs will be put out as an album/LP, instead of two EP's. I think this is a wise decision, will get more publicity being 'the first new album with James Iha in 18 years' than two EP's. Also it's only one song shorter than Monuments.

[ninsp]

Goddamn it I want the MACHINA II remaster

I LOVE MACHINA II.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by WeilandFan

Billy said in his Instagram Q&A that the songs will be put out as an album/LP, instead of two EP's. I think this is a wise decision, will get more publicity being 'the first new album with James Iha in 18 years' than two EP's. Also it's only one song shorter than Monuments.

Funny how he announced his EPS after Reznor was doing his, then right after Reznor changes his mind and publicly tells a fan to fuck themselves all of a sudden Bobo is not doing the series of EPs anymore.

At least this time he listening and learning from other peoples mistake and realizing Spotify will bury the EPs, rather do something like I don't know have to change your name back when you realize no can find your solo album.

[amoergosum]

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