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05-22-2018, 01:45 AM | #61 |
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Jesus loved John.
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05-22-2018, 01:46 AM | #62 |
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05-25-2018, 12:50 PM | #63 |
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I have a question about what happens to mentally retarded people when they go to heaven in Christian theology.
Like, survival of the soul after death means that some entity, some "part of you" that has your personality and a continuity of memory and anticipation with the mortal you, exists in heaven after your bodily death, correct? So, seeing as being intellectually disabled has implications on the aspects we think of as core to self and identity— things like personality, perception, behaviours, understanding, response to stimuli, etc.— in order to really be the "same person" that died, must somebody retarded in life continue to be retarded for eternity in the afterlife? Or, leaving the constraints and limitations of their physical bodies, the same way people aren't likely to carry physical scars, injuries, and defects into the afterlife, do mentally disabled people suddenly gain normal mental capacity? If that's the case, it seems less like a person is living on in the afterlife, and more like one physical person dying, and another entirely unrelated non-physical person being born at the same time. Of course, compared to heavenly beings, we are probably all pretty retarded, so does that mean that none of us truly lives on after death? We're doomed to die, and to be replaced by less retarded beings? |
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05-25-2018, 01:55 PM | #64 |
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05-25-2018, 01:56 PM | #65 |
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What about animals? Can my dog come to heaven? I mean I know I am doomed because I am a blaspheming Christ-killer, but my dog is agnostic. Would God consider letting him in?
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05-25-2018, 01:58 PM | #66 |
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what about this centipede I just killed? It had a nervous system so it has some sort of "mind" and consciousness for sure. Are centipedes too retarded for heaven?
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05-29-2018, 11:21 PM | #67 |
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Um, Ma'm. What if you're a really good person but you're in a really really bad fight and your leg gets gangrene and it has to be amputated. Will it be waiting for you in heaven?
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05-31-2018, 08:15 PM | #68 |
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Can Jesus dunk? y/n
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06-03-2018, 09:43 PM | #69 |
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06-03-2018, 10:59 PM | #70 |
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why do christians martyr themselves like with this kind of thread all the time? like, ur suffering is unique?
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06-04-2018, 09:21 AM | #71 |
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the christian religion flourished thanks to martyrdom
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06-04-2018, 12:15 PM | #72 |
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also fatherfucking
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06-05-2018, 11:52 AM | #73 |
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I am totally returning to this thread. My son had a horrible ear infection where blisters formed on his eardrum and he cried for a solid night before complaining all day every day for a week.
He finally recovered and went back to school and on his first day back put a fucking ice cream in his bag to save for later. So I am just not in a good place right now. But I am coming back to this thread I promise. |
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06-05-2018, 07:16 PM | #74 |
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Hope your son feels better, that sounds awful
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06-05-2018, 07:22 PM | #75 |
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sorry to hear vix but also lmao at the ice cream...
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06-05-2018, 10:16 PM | #76 |
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Hey Vix, I'm happy to hear that your little guy is doing better!
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06-05-2018, 11:41 PM | #77 |
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Jesus wept
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06-05-2018, 11:48 PM | #78 |
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Will the ice cream be waiting for him in heaven?
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06-06-2018, 01:33 AM | #79 | ||
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Obviously a lot of harm has been done by the church to the LGBTQ community in this regard, and many of us inside the church are deeply saddened by that. Sad that harm was caused to others, and sad that it was the one place that we thought we could count on, to be accepting of all God’s children, and sadder still that the condemnation and rejection was done supposedly in God’s name. I don’t know many Christians who talk much about the afterlife, because despite how Christianity is usually presented, (by Christians as well as Richard Dawkins et. al.) for the Christians I know, it is not a religion that is primarily concerned with death and the afterlife, but with life in the here and now. My 100-year old grandfather, who is still an ordained Presbytarian minister and yet what most people would call an atheist, is quite happy with the idea that there is no afterlife, because he has been widowed twice and is currently married to his third wife. There are definitely a lot of ways that an afterlife makes no sense to me or in fact seems like a bad idea. And our life experiences, from the death of people we cared for and emotionally invested in, usually tells us that these people really are gone and not coming back in any way, and that is why death is so painful, isn’t it? I think, whatever happens after death, my faith is in God, not that. So, whatever God has worked out (if anything), it will be fair, and good, and right. Believing that, as I do, I don’t worry so much about the specifics. Even if I could find out more about them, my curiosity isn’t huge, because there is so much to keep me busy in this life. I’m sorry if that is a really unsatisfying answer. Quote:
So, I kinda hope that bodies are made whole, just for those ladies, so that they can dance. Sappy, huh. But that is the kind of sentimental shit that really makes me tick. Sorry. Last edited by vixnix : 06-06-2018 at 02:10 AM. Reason: wrong quote |
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06-06-2018, 01:36 AM | #80 | |
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I’m not a huge fan of centipedes, so I won’t be bothered if they don’t make it. But I am just one eternal soul, I guess, so it probably isn’t going to be a place determined by my preferences. And knowing my luck, it will probably be full of stuff I don't like, just like this world is. That's my expectation. So I'm going to assume they will go to heaven. |
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06-06-2018, 01:37 AM | #81 |
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I mean his repertoire of magic tricks (ILLUSIONS) included turning water into wine and walking on water - also, coming back from the dead. So I reckon dunking is within the realm of possibilities, you know?
Well, ok then. Maybe not. |
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06-06-2018, 01:38 AM | #82 | |
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Sorry about the martyring. |
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06-06-2018, 01:40 AM | #83 |
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This could well be true. I have never thought about it. But I can imagine that seeing a lot of people who were prepared to die for their faith gave people in the ancient world pause for thought.
Hmm. Not that I know of. This always and forever will remind me of that episode of Nip/Tuck where the adopted son supposedly wants cosmetic surgery to look more like his Dad because he loves his Dad so much, and then it turns out that they are a fake Dad-son anal sex exhibit at high-end parties for people who had seen it all and need something drastic and new to really get off, and the show will work much better if only they could look a little bit more alike. That show really took me to a lot of unexpected and sad places that I will never fully be able to leave. |
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06-06-2018, 01:42 AM | #84 |
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ah thanks. Yeah it seemed pretty painful from where I was observing he is much better now, thankfully.
yeah I would have laughed too, if not for the week immediately preceding that event. thanks fuzzy |
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06-06-2018, 01:43 AM | #85 |
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Still looking for video footage of a song with this title, sung by a group called the U.S.S. Hit Machine during a 24 hour long televised music marathon raising money for mental health, in 2004, in New Zealand. I saw it at 3:00am and was like this is the greatest fucking thing I have ever seen, just one lanky guy with an electric guitar and another guy on drums if I remember right. One of those moments where I was like I can’t believe this actually exists, life has fulfilled its ultimate purpose, I need to see these guys live. Saddest and most depressing act I have ever had the cosmic pleasure to behold. From Christchurch. Typically, I have never been able to find out ANYTHING about them and I think it might have been a joke group that formed in an emergency when producers realised there was an empty slot. Still probably the greatest moment of live television, for me.
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06-06-2018, 01:44 AM | #86 |
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Only if God arranges for retrieval from Malaysian landfills. Not sure how to verify those details unfortunately. But my hunch is that his chances are not good. Moral of the story, if you have ice cream, eat it now!
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06-06-2018, 01:55 AM | #87 |
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I was referencing Hellraiser
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06-06-2018, 01:57 AM | #88 |
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06-06-2018, 03:02 AM | #89 |
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vixnix you should check out silence. excellent film about jesuits in japan.
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06-07-2018, 08:48 AM | #90 | |
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