Billy Corgan Ponders End to the Smashing Pumpkins - Page 2

Ram27 · 08-30-2014, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Butt Pope

He wants the attention, arenas, and adoration of 1996, but has no idea how to get there anymore. His prime has come and gone and that's not his fault, nor is their shame in it, but to think he's going to release an album to critical and popular acclaim and sell 4 million copies is a fantasy.

Btw, Dave grohl and trent reznor also peaked in the 90s despite what they've done since.

Btw Foo fighters are still going strong. Even though it all sounds 'the same'. At least Grohl can release an album without some big fucking motive behind it.

hnibos · 08-30-2014, 09:32 AM

Only took 8 years

T&T · 08-30-2014, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cardiac

One might argue that Trent's by far the biggest achiement in the last decade or so has fuck all to do with The Downward Spiral or whatever.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...s_1836564i.jpg

this isn't a big achievement. This is just some suits giving him a stamp.

Cool As Ice Cream · 08-30-2014, 09:41 AM

fucking end it already you fucken crybaby lets see how many people are going to read your stupid teacatwrestling blog then probably like one instead of twenty

and yes he said the same thing before oceania came out and then he wussed out by saying that people were talking about the album and that this was already more than he had hoped for

T&T · 08-30-2014, 10:07 AM

i don't even care. it's kind of like a 'one liner' when he says that shit. he's like a fatty who can't control himself around a cake - crap just spills out of his mouth to get any attention possible.

Cool As Ice Cream · 08-30-2014, 11:01 AM

true.

also, people who say "why smashing pumpkins, why is the name that important, who cares about the name" obviously care about the name. (as in, they don't want it to be called smashing pumpkins.)
if you claim not to care about the name, then the name smashing pumpkins shouldn't bother you either.

it's all about the music, man.
i wish it was.

bye june · 08-30-2014, 11:23 AM

I think the answer to the questions he's asking is:

Don't give a fuck.

Why hasn't he put out ten awesome solo albums by now?
Why Isn't he making the music he truly wants to make?
He's too worried about bullshit that dosen't matter.
Just make good music and people will be happy!

:bang ing:

Araneae · 08-30-2014, 02:50 PM

Billy is his own worst enemy. It's amazing how he manages to ruin any sort of goodwill he builds with the fanbase whilst contradicting himself continuously, he had a string of decent interviews and now he spouts this garbage again. Maybe he needs to just go away already if he's just going to be like this.

And then saying shit like this doesn't help him any, especially since he himself hasn't released anything really amazing in almost 20 years. Billy also doesn't really listen to any post-2000 bands for anyone to even give a shit about his opinion on this. He just sounds like a crotchety old man.

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Besides, he's not all that impressed with the competition. "I see certain artists' work vaunted as if it's like the greatest thing you've ever heard on those web pages, and then I listen, and I don't hear it," he said. "You know, I don't hear (the Beatles') 'Sgt. Pepper.' I don't hear (the Beach Boys') 'Pet Sounds.' I don't even hear the best Ramones album."

It seems most of what he has said in these past few interviews was a load of crap since he still has severe insecurity issues with himself and his place in music.

Elphenor · 08-30-2014, 03:08 PM

Not even the BEST Ramones album

butthurt · 08-30-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bye june

Just make good music and people will be happy!

http://assets.rollingstone.com/asset...1390414980.jpg

Ol' Couch Ass · 08-30-2014, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

when really he should just say fuck it and do some acid

Pretty much.

fuzzyroes · 08-31-2014, 12:25 AM

Whats Corgan so hung up about anyways? Oceania debuted at #5 on the charts. That's still pretty relevant considering he's the only original member.

coldestrose · 08-31-2014, 12:32 AM

Obviously that's 4 spots too low for him

Gooch · 08-31-2014, 02:45 AM

He's setting himself up for failure by trying too hard to please critics and pop culture. Fucking Willie Nelson is 80 and still tours and has a following and hasn't had a hit since On the Road Again, but he's going strong and is well respected. Why? Cuz he smokes pot and doesn't give a shit. LSD would work too, as mentioned.

Trotskilicious · 08-31-2014, 02:54 AM

i dunno that willie actually does that many shows

Trotskilicious · 08-31-2014, 02:55 AM

i think people like him because he's a sweet old man.

bill corgan can't ever to be that.

Funbags · 08-31-2014, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cardiac

One might argue that Trent's by far the biggest achiement in the last decade or so has fuck all to do with The Downward Spiral or whatever.

It's the same goth drones and weeble-wooble noises he's always made.

Trotskilicious · 08-31-2014, 03:32 AM

these kids and their trent reznor

Funbags · 08-31-2014, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by coldestrose

Obviously that's 4 spots too low for him

Kicked off the basketball team!

aeroplume · 08-31-2014, 09:56 AM

whatever legacy the band had is long gone now. billy sings worse than eddie vedder when he does that thing with his jaw and goes wahhuhhhuhuhhhhh

people still listen to albums, they just dont buy them. welcome to 2014. stop bitching, billy.

amoergosum · 08-31-2014, 11:02 AM

2014 >>>

http://i.giflike.com/jAJBDtb.gif

amoergosum · 08-31-2014, 11:11 AM

Ed still sounds great >>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZwUg08DI4#t=1m14s

coldestrose · 08-31-2014, 11:19 AM

Agreed.

Plus, people like Eddie Vedder and Dave Grohl don't go around complaining and comparing themselves to artists who are doing better than them. They just keep making their music and going out and rocking it. Maybe if Billy did the same he would have more success these days.

myosis · 08-31-2014, 11:36 AM

artists who have revolutionized rock'n'roll (or at least made a big impact on it) all did so during their 20's. Mr. Corgan is part of the select few, and yet he won't be content of this accomplishment.

Modern90's · 09-05-2014, 04:01 PM

Corgan needs to stop worrying of the album is "going to sell" to go and say it you're best album ever like he did with Oceania. Don't worry about " the modern consumer or any of that shit. Make music and have fun doing it corgan

killtrocity · 09-05-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Funbags

It's the same goth drones and weeble-wooble noises he's always made.

http://www.godsandalcoves.com/upload...uhaus_band.jpg?

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...PTkHa_e2bVi4KA??

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...gEIHWCjJN8vrLA???

Trotskilicious · 09-05-2014, 07:20 PM

Quick somebody photoshop robert smiths face on a spy drone

coldestrose · 09-05-2014, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Modern90's

Corgan needs to stop worrying of the album is "going to sell" to go and say it you're best album ever like he did with Oceania. Don't worry about " the modern consumer or any of that shit. Make music and have fun doing it corgan

I'm pretty sure this is what has been suggested since like, 2007.

Ram27 · 09-05-2014, 10:43 PM

plus

http://i.imgur.com/fCFKh51.png

null123 · 09-05-2014, 10:59 PM

Billy has said multiple times that he basically hates the contemporary music landscape so I'm not sure why he's expecting his own work to be popular when the public's tastes are so at adds with his own.

If he really wants to make a "popular" album, like make it onto Pitchfork or Noisey or whatever even though he pretends he doesn't want that, he's gonna have to find something in the current scene that resonates and focus on making music that has some congruency.

08-30-2014, 11:23 AM	#37
bye june Ownz Location: Sadlands Posts: 930	I think the answer to the questions he's asking is: Don't give a fuck. Why hasn't he put out ten awesome solo albums by now? Why Isn't he making the music he truly wants to make? He's too worried about bullshit that dosen't matter. Just make good music and people will be happy! :bang ing: :bang ing:

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hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,023	Only took 8 years

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Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	fucking end it already you fucken crybaby lets see how many people are going to read your stupid teacatwrestling blog then probably like one instead of twenty and yes he said the same thing before oceania came out and then he wussed out by saying that people were talking about the album and that this was already more than he had hoped for

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T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,679	i don't even care. it's kind of like a 'one liner' when he says that shit. he's like a fatty who can't control himself around a cake - crap just spills out of his mouth to get any attention possible.

08-30-2014, 11:01 AM	#36
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	true. also, people who say "why smashing pumpkins, why is the name that important, who cares about the name" obviously care about the name. (as in, they don't want it to be called smashing pumpkins.) if you claim not to care about the name, then the name smashing pumpkins shouldn't bother you either. it's all about the music, man. i wish it was.

08-30-2014, 03:08 PM	#39
Elphenor Braindead Location: TX Posts: 16,289	Not even the BEST Ramones album

08-31-2014, 12:25 AM	#42
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	Whats Corgan so hung up about anyways? Oceania debuted at #5 on the charts. That's still pretty relevant considering he's the only original member.

08-31-2014, 12:32 AM	#43
coldestrose Demi-God Location: weet woo Posts: 322	Obviously that's 4 spots too low for him

08-31-2014, 02:45 AM	#44
Gooch Apocalyptic Poster Location: Pancakes in my area Posts: 1,553	He's setting himself up for failure by trying too hard to please critics and pop culture. Fucking Willie Nelson is 80 and still tours and has a following and hasn't had a hit since On the Road Again, but he's going strong and is well respected. Why? Cuz he smokes pot and doesn't give a shit. LSD would work too, as mentioned.

08-31-2014, 02:54 AM	#45
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	i dunno that willie actually does that many shows

08-31-2014, 02:55 AM	#46
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	i think people like him because he's a sweet old man. bill corgan can't ever to be that.

08-31-2014, 03:32 AM	#48
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	these kids and their trent reznor

08-31-2014, 09:56 AM	#50
aeroplume Demi-God Posts: 326	whatever legacy the band had is long gone now. billy sings worse than eddie vedder when he does that thing with his jaw and goes wahhuhhhuhuhhhhh people still listen to albums, they just dont buy them. welcome to 2014. stop bitching, billy.

08-31-2014, 11:02 AM	#51
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	2014 >>> http://i.giflike.com/jAJBDtb.gif

08-31-2014, 11:11 AM	#52
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	Ed still sounds great >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZwUg08DI4#t=1m14s

08-31-2014, 11:19 AM	#53
coldestrose Demi-God Location: weet woo Posts: 322	Agreed. Plus, people like Eddie Vedder and Dave Grohl don't go around complaining and comparing themselves to artists who are doing better than them. They just keep making their music and going out and rocking it. Maybe if Billy did the same he would have more success these days.

08-31-2014, 11:36 AM	#54
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	artists who have revolutionized rock'n'roll (or at least made a big impact on it) all did so during their 20's. Mr. Corgan is part of the select few, and yet he won't be content of this accomplishment.

09-05-2014, 04:01 PM	#55
Modern90's Demi-God Location: The Past, Future, and Present Posts: 388	Corgan needs to stop worrying of the album is "going to sell" to go and say it you're best album ever like he did with Oceania. Don't worry about " the modern consumer or any of that shit. Make music and have fun doing it corgan

09-05-2014, 07:20 PM	#57
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	Quick somebody photoshop robert smiths face on a spy drone

09-05-2014, 10:43 PM	#59
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	plus http://i.imgur.com/fCFKh51.png

09-05-2014, 10:59 PM	#60
null123 Minion of Satan Location: bye Posts: 7,266	Billy has said multiple times that he basically hates the contemporary music landscape so I'm not sure why he's expecting his own work to be popular when the public's tastes are so at adds with his own. If he really wants to make a "popular" album, like make it onto Pitchfork or Noisey or whatever even though he pretends he doesn't want that, he's gonna have to find something in the current scene that resonates and focus on making music that has some congruency.