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07-12-2018, 07:36 AM | #1591 |
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07-12-2018, 08:41 AM | #1592 | |
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Additionally, I'm sure Buttcannon is right. Corgan now knows that D'arcy feels no hesitancy in going public with her gripes. If Corgan sent lawyers after her now, she would tell us, and it would only hurt Billy more. Corgan has taken the best strategy in just publicly letting it go. Buttcannon, have you heard anything in particular to make you think Corgan had a part in leaking the D'arcy photo, or is that just your gut feeling? |
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07-12-2018, 10:15 AM | #1593 | |
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it comes from a cd-r, and it's a lossy source. http://spfreaks.com/item/perfect-puff-daddy-remix/ |
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07-12-2018, 10:17 AM | #1594 |
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lossless source is not widely available (2 perfect remixes, 4 ava adore remixes): http://spfreaks.com/item/remixes/
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07-12-2018, 10:33 AM | #1595 |
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Not at all, but that seems to be his MO for damage control. It went from her really going wild to absolute silence. All these people with supposed beefs or simply past band mates are oddly quiet about their experience (probably an NDA) and when asked tend to obfuscate or dodge the questions. I think it was on Howard when Billy mentioned her words being slanderous and sort of insinuated that it's been taken care of.
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07-12-2018, 10:40 AM | #1596 |
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07-12-2018, 10:44 AM | #1597 |
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Oh yeah. That. I just don't see the benefit of that. A) it would destroy him B) being abused and injured isn't a reason you cut someone out of a band.
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07-12-2018, 10:58 AM | #1599 | |
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07-12-2018, 11:01 AM | #1600 |
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Stay outta this Clay
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07-12-2018, 11:05 AM | #1601 |
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Hey! I have a right to comment on - uh, err, who is this Clay person you speak of?
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07-12-2018, 11:15 AM | #1602 |
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All this talk of lawyers and public beef makes me wonder about the whole Zwan thing. From what I understand, the other members signed NDAs. Is that sort of thing typical when a band breaks up? If so, I've never heard of it. Also, Billy has said some really awful things about the other members publicly, so if he signed an NDA, hasn't he violated it? Thus it would seem like the other members could talk about it if they want to. I know Pajo has said some things. But I guess all in all I just wonder what specifically all the secrecy is about.
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07-12-2018, 11:17 AM | #1603 |
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I think Billy has the business end sewn up. It's not a band thing. To join his band you're signing the NDA to preserve his brand and business. He does what he wants.
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07-12-2018, 11:21 AM | #1604 | |
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That's probably also why his music has suffered substantially over the past 16 years or so. He's too focused on the business aspect and has forgotten what it was like to actually be passionate about songwriting. Then again, maybe not. I can't, for the life of me, fathom how anyone with a good business sense would think that whole Teargarden thing was a good idea. |
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07-12-2018, 11:24 AM | #1605 |
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I think someone taught him early on that he's rich now and he has a mega business that will be his livelihood so it's time to lawyer up and this is how you use the lawyers to preserve what you have. The lawyers should have stepped in during the TG period.
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07-12-2018, 11:26 AM | #1606 | |
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From a 2017 interview with Matt Sweeney
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For years, I thought the NDA thing was speculation, but he confirms it here. I'm sure all the members of Smashing Pumpkins from 2007 onward have signed them as well. |
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07-12-2018, 11:34 AM | #1607 |
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For real. I think the problem here is that Billy is one of those people that wants to be this icon and his brand to have this popular brand, but his ego is such that he surrounds himself with anyone who will shower him with praise. Hence the reason he shows up on Alex Jones. Anyone with a good business sense wouldn't set foot near an asshole who claims school shootings were staged, but not Billy, because Alex kisses his ass. Pajo was spot-on when he compared him to Trump.
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07-12-2018, 11:35 AM | #1608 | |
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D'arcy had talked for four months. None of her messages were put down. She could simply want to put her energy in other things now. Why did Corgan visit Mancow Muller just two days after Muller's photo contest? Surely because he had NOTHING to do with the posting of the photo. He not only didn't say he disliked his behaviour but played the whining victim again. Corgan only went from their bridge had burnt to a ship that had sailed -after she told that there had never been a bridge. He won't forgive her having lost money at the ticket sales. |
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07-12-2018, 11:37 AM | #1609 | |
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I wonder if this is part of the reason why we rarely see him collaborate with other prominent artists. I can just imagine if Billy and Trent Reznor or Maynard James Keenan tried to collaborate and he tried to get them to sign an NDA. They'd be like, "Go fuck yourself." I wonder if that's why the Marilyn Manson collaboration in the 1990s never happened. I wish it had though; could have been interesting. |
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07-12-2018, 11:52 AM | #1610 |
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Would be interesting if even the original members are forced now to sign a NDA joining again the band/brand.
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07-12-2018, 11:59 AM | #1611 |
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Yes I bet that's why talented, popular artists and producers don't work with Billy Corgan
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07-12-2018, 12:06 PM | #1612 |
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I've been told Clay Tuckett started listening to The Smashing Pumpkins in 2007.
pos·er noun a person who acts in an affected manner in order to impress others. synonyms: exhibitionist, poseur, posturer, fake; informalshow-off |
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07-12-2018, 12:25 PM | #1613 |
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07-12-2018, 12:28 PM | #1614 | |
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07-12-2018, 02:17 PM | #1615 |
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jimmy and james would have the power to say I'm not signing any NDA. what would billy do? "OK then, you're off the reunion!" but james probably did anyway cause he's non confrontational.
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07-12-2018, 05:38 PM | #1616 | |
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07-12-2018, 05:52 PM | #1617 |
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Yeah, that's interesting. is it Smashing Corgan, LLC and anyone involves has to jump through hoops or do James and Jimmy get to skip out on all that save the financial documents? The others are held to contracts and NDAs
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07-12-2018, 06:28 PM | #1618 |
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Did James only refuse in 2007 for the money he got offered? Are there any documents about it?
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07-12-2018, 08:45 PM | #1619 | |
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James on the 2007 on reunion: “No, I’m not part of the current Smashing Pumpkins album or tour, I haven’t spoken to Billy in years. I’m writing for a solo record, which I’m going to record this year, and working on my indie label Scratchie Records,” https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...reunion-84442/ |
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07-13-2018, 12:49 AM | #1620 |
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James got an offer, which he might have easy could deny. Not directly by Corgan, who may be too shy for such things. And not by a newspaper advertisement.
Wasn't it strange that brand owner Billy Corgan was whining officially he wanted his music back which he has complete control of? |
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