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Old 01-13-2016, 10:17 PM   #211
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yeah I love him, and he's a great example of just how much you can do with just a voice and a guitar. ironically, I prefer his lusher full band stuff though

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:31 PM   #212
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Hold on guys let me play this Pere Ubu song acoustically gonna impress the ladies lol
A real guitar player could transcribe any song from any genre and format it to an acoustic guiar. Like those guys that turn rap songs into folk songs. All songs have notes.

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:36 PM   #213
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duh?

It wouldn't even be hard to play it acoustic, where there are actually notes, it would just be pointless

Yeah let me just play this on acoustic:


 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:39 PM   #214
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Why would it be pointless? Any song can be stripped down to its chord or root notes with vocal applied. What's stopping you?

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:41 PM   #215
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I just youtubed some Pere Ubu and these songs are very rhythmic. Very much inclined for an acoustic guitar which is a kind of a rhythmic instrument.

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:46 PM   #216
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All songs have notes.
lol so you think

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:48 PM   #217
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Why would it be pointless? Any song can be stripped down to its chord or root notes with vocal applied. What's stopping you?
common sense?

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:50 PM   #218
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lol so you think


Drums are tuned. If you mash down on all the notes on a keyboard - a note is formed. Even a badly played guitar chord has a scale that it falls in to.

Are you being serious?

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:52 PM   #219
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Don't blame your inability around a musical instrument stop you from thinking that any song could not be played around a campfire.

Unless we're talking about abstract noise or something which you're not.

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:59 PM   #220
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:59 PM   #221
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It's not a question of whether it can be done like I said

It's a question of why the fuck would you

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:15 PM   #222
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yeah I love him, and he's a great example of just how much you can do with just a voice and a guitar. ironically, I prefer his lusher full band stuff though


I'd like to find a song to cover and do it as well as this guy did with his choice:




 
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:16 PM   #223
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You could transcribe the two synth notes in this song and do an acoustic song of it. It might be boring if you're not a great guitar player, but it could be done. Many amazing folk songs only feature two chords.

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:18 PM   #224
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It wouldn't even be hard to play it acoustic, where there are actually notes, it would just be pointless
This is where being a proficient or knowledgeable guitar player comes in to play. You can transcribe individual notes or melodies into chord progressions. If you're any good.

 
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:43 PM   #225
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i remember randomly watching an unplugged lorraine hill (i think...?) concert on mtv, a few years back. i'm not into her music but it really inspired me because she basically did her rap numbers with only an acoustic guitar (and perhaps very sparse other instrumentation).
half chording, half tapping on the body or on the strings to create a rhythmic effect. i would never think doing rap with a classical guitar could work so well but it did.

re: this discussion, it really is possible to fill an entire room with lush arrangements using only one acoustic guitar. it's all a matter of how good a songwriter/musician you are.
that's not to shit on shoegaze or rock or any electric genre, as i wholeheartedly love those as well, but something about the craftsmanship and minimalist approach that's required to really get the most of just a voice and an acoustic guitar is extremely compelling for me.

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 12:13 AM   #226
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You could transcribe the two synth notes in this song and do an acoustic song of it. It might be boring if you're not a great guitar player, but it could be done. Many amazing folk songs only feature two chords.
Again, yes it could be done. But it would be ridiculous. Do you not see the comedy here

I'm getting trolled

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 12:39 AM   #227
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I'm getting trolled
lol yes

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I'd like to find a song to cover and do it as well as this guy did with his choice:




the opening chords sound a lot like Have You Forgotten by Red House Painters



Kozelek is another example of someone who can bring the most supremely powerful music with just his voice and a trusty guitar

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 02:06 AM   #228
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Lauryn Hill, 2001.. probably one of the last great music related things that came on MTV.. I remember when she bursts into tears singing that Bob Marley cover too, good stuff!


 
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:07 PM   #229
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For my money Funk is the best thing you can play on guitar

Unless you're like RHCP and don't have a cool bone in your entire body

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:09 PM   #230
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*plays James Brown*

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:14 PM   #231
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lol

I've been into actual good white guy funk since I really got into music. It's all I play really between just dissonance

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:16 PM   #232
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*plays Gang of Four*

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:23 PM   #233
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*Enjoys Elphenor's rendition of a Gang of Four song*

Not bad, bro.

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:35 PM   #234
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The intro solo to this is what I'm trying to learn RIGHT NOW

http://youtu.be/ZCDAudHaaQw

I'm on mobile so embed would be a pain in the ass

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:37 PM   #235
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I worship D. Boon as a guitar player and usually you don't do that in punk

It's fun you can play GoF songs and Minutemen songs with the same guitar setting, it's all clean treble cut out the mid and lows no distortion

 
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:25 PM   #236
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This is where being a proficient or knowledgeable guitar player comes in to play. You can transcribe individual notes or melodies into chord progressions. If you're any good.


It also helps to be an old souled storyteller with a voice that resonates like a wisened owl.

 
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:22 PM   #237
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Listening to people play at an open mic and feeling like shit cuz they're all better than me. Dude was double-tapping and shit. They are all good singers, too.

Some guy is doing an acoustic version of Eminem's 'Lose Yourself' right now, so that makes me feel better, though.

 
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:28 PM   #238
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Hey guys what's a good pedal to sound like you have self esteem

 
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:48 AM   #239
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Hey guys what's a good pedal to sound like you have self esteem
Compressor. makes you loud at any volume!

 
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Old 02-03-2016, 03:06 AM   #240
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Never had a use for a compressor before, but I have this one fuzz pedal that I can't use quietly. As soon as I engage it, the volume goes insane and everything is picked up (sometimes even get radio stations), and the only way to get it to a volume acceptable for apartment playing is to turn it so low that I'm not even getting much fuzz anymore. Or, I can turn the guitar and amp volume so low that the bypass signal in inaudible, and I only even get sound if the pedal is engaged. Which sucks if I want to alternate between distorted and clean.

I guess a compressor would help even that out.

 
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