I wish Adore was just an album of sad acoustic and/or piano songs

Ram27 · 09-21-2016, 11:11 PM

Corgan was definitely right that after the bombast of MCIS that was the only direction the band could go

The techno stuff is lame as shit though

I've been really depressed lately and as such I've really grown to love Adore. But still can't stand YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MY WHOOOORE

ilikeplanets · 09-21-2016, 11:31 PM

You don't like Pug?

redbreegull · 09-21-2016, 11:38 PM

The electronic elements are such an integral part of Adore. It's hard for me to even envision what the album would be like if you took that element out.

redbreegull · 09-21-2016, 11:57 PM

Ava Adore is an underrated song (here at least). I think maybe it gets lost sometimes between the hits and the fan favorites. But that there is a great jam.

FlamingGlobes · 09-22-2016, 12:16 AM

I think it's Perfect as is. I Adore it and it makes me Tear up just thinking about it being any different.

redbreegull · 09-22-2016, 12:35 AM

I wish this thread were a Blank Page

FlamingGlobes · 09-22-2016, 01:07 AM

Appels and Oranjes, my friend, Appels and Oranjes

trevorbrooks · 09-22-2016, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram27

I've been really depressed lately and as such I've really grown to love Adore.

this too is how i came to appreciate the album

myosis · 09-22-2016, 08:07 AM

well, i'm going bowling

teh b0lly!!1 · 09-22-2016, 09:22 AM

oh shit, guys! behold!
a night mare!

Cool As Ice Cream · 09-22-2016, 09:25 AM

COME BACK PAAAAAAALE HOARSE

Venom · 09-22-2016, 10:10 AM

Dusty screams through doors and imaginary floors.

ilikeplanets · 09-22-2016, 11:57 AM

I really hate Annie Dog, I've never had a mood bad enough that made me like that song

trevorbrooks · 09-22-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

I really hate Annie Dog, I've never had a mood bad enough that made me like that song

give it time

DemonUnicorns · 09-22-2016, 02:56 PM

Surely there are acoustic/piano versions of all songs, yet Billy probably left some off the reissue. Otherwise, check out what's in the reissue—some not so electronic versions.

Ram27 · 09-22-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

I really hate Annie Dog, I've never had a mood bad enough that made me like that song

I love Annie Dog, honestly. Billy's vocals are really nice on it; he sounds sort of nonchalant and passive, it's cool.

plus no techno bullshit. whoever's drumming on this is great (matt cameron i think?)

ilikeplanets · 09-22-2016, 03:40 PM

Idk to me there's something grating about his vocals on that track. And I barely even notice the drumming. I love the way he sings on B!TNM and Appels though.....Adore is hit or miss with me and I have to be in a pensive mood. I'm more of a crunchy guitar fan

FlamingGlobes · 09-22-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

I really hate Annie Dog, I've never had a mood bad enough that made me like that song

Like a lot of the deeper cuts on that album, it took me several years to gel with that one.

run2pee · 09-22-2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

Idk to me there's something grating about his vocals on that track. And I barely even notice the drumming. I love the way he sings on B!TNM and Appels though.....Adore is hit or miss with me and I have to be in a pensive mood. I'm more of a crunchy guitar fan

The rough, 4am delivery from bill is one of the many things I love about Annie Dog...but I agree it's grating. Kinda like TOASE, you're either down with it or not, and everything else about the song is secondary

NovaFritz · 09-22-2016, 10:26 PM

I think Annie Dog is probably the best song on the album.
Compelling theme, really doesn't slow down the album at a critical time, engaging mid-tempo beat, and some of the best piano work this side of Thelonius Monk.

MyKeyZ · 10:43 PM

An acoustic Adore... nah. Adore is perfect. The acoustic meets electronic elements is what makes Adore great. That balance. An all acoustic Adore would be boring after a while. I wasn't too thrilled when Billy recently announced a solo acoustic album. You can throw Rick Rubin's name around, ain't gonna help.

When I hear someone throw the term "techno" around as a derogatory term, I just imagine some aging 50 year old wanking guitarist in leather pants whining about "those dumb silly kids with their techno thingamajigs making bleep bloop blop sounds thinking it's real music, it ain't real music if it ain't made with a guitar."

When listening to Adore, techno is the last word that comes to mind.

ilikeplanets · 09-22-2016, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaFritz

I think Annie Dog is probably the best song on the album.
Compelling theme, really doesn't slow down the album at a critical time, engaging mid-tempo beat, and some of the best piano work this side of Thelonius Monk.

Wait, seriously? I think the piano on For Martha is leagues above. And that's just in Adore, don't get me started on Machina 2

ilikeplanets · 09-22-2016, 10:52 PM

And yeah I don't think Adore is all that techno-y either. Just some electronic elements. But techno calls to mind auto tune, sampling, and pounding beats that aren't present in Adore.

NovaFritz · 09-23-2016, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

Wait, seriously? I think the piano on For Martha is leagues above. And that's just in Adore, don't get me started on Machina 2

I was being sarcastic, for me that song is the album's low point. A low point foreshadowed by Crestfallen. Dude should stay off the keys. They aren't so bad on
For Martha and I like them on Behold! but I still, he is better off with a guitar or synth.

ilikeplanets · 09-23-2016, 12:58 AM

Hey I've heard people defend worse songs in more exaggerated ways so I had to check

ilikeplanets · 09-23-2016, 12:59 AM

And be careful what you wish for with that synth

teh b0lly!!1 · 09-23-2016, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

I really hate Annie Dog, I've never had a mood bad enough that made me like that song

it was the last song for me to understand\like on that record, but now i love it.

this thread made me remember just how much that record means to me. still probably rate it highest on the SP back catalogue.

trevorbrooks · 09-23-2016, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ilikeplanets

And be careful what you wish for with that synth

my thought exactly, Run2the guitars pls

crabshack · 09-23-2016, 06:10 PM

Aside from the obvious standout tracks, Adore is an album of glorified demos.

crabshack · 09-23-2016, 06:13 PM

When you listen to the Reissue, the only differences between a final version and a demo/rehearsal version are either con-comped vocals or a slightly different drum program. It's telling when you listen to, for example, take 10(!) of Annie Dog and he's still yelling out chord changes.

09-21-2016, 11:11 PM	#1
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	I wish Adore was just an album of sad acoustic and/or piano songs Corgan was definitely right that after the bombast of MCIS that was the only direction the band could go The techno stuff is lame as shit though I've been really depressed lately and as such I've really grown to love Adore. But still can't stand YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MY WHOOOORE

09-22-2016, 10:37 PM	#21
MyKeyZ Apocalyptic Poster Location: A very stable individual Posts: 1,690	An acoustic Adore... nah. Adore is perfect. The acoustic meets electronic elements is what makes Adore great. That balance. An all acoustic Adore would be boring after a while. I wasn't too thrilled when Billy recently announced a solo acoustic album. You can throw Rick Rubin's name around, ain't gonna help. When I hear someone throw the term "techno" around as a derogatory term, I just imagine some aging 50 year old wanking guitarist in leather pants whining about "those dumb silly kids with their techno thingamajigs making bleep bloop blop sounds thinking it's real music, it ain't real music if it ain't made with a guitar." When listening to Adore, techno is the last word that comes to mind. Last edited by MyKeyZ : 09-22-2016 at 10:43 PM.

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09-21-2016, 11:31 PM	#2
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	You don't like Pug?

09-21-2016, 11:38 PM	#3
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	The electronic elements are such an integral part of Adore. It's hard for me to even envision what the album would be like if you took that element out.

09-21-2016, 11:57 PM	#4
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	Ava Adore is an underrated song (here at least). I think maybe it gets lost sometimes between the hits and the fan favorites. But that there is a great jam.

09-22-2016, 12:16 AM	#5
FlamingGlobes Socialphobic Location: I’ve been trying to move to the Nordic countries for 5 years but the cost is astronomical to become an expatriate Posts: 14,679	I think it's Perfect as is. I Adore it and it makes me Tear up just thinking about it being any different.

09-22-2016, 12:35 AM	#6
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	I wish this thread were a Blank Page

09-22-2016, 01:07 AM	#7
FlamingGlobes Socialphobic Location: I’ve been trying to move to the Nordic countries for 5 years but the cost is astronomical to become an expatriate Posts: 14,679	Appels and Oranjes, my friend, Appels and Oranjes

09-22-2016, 08:07 AM	#9
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	well, i'm going bowling

09-22-2016, 09:22 AM	#10
teh b0lly!!1 Braindead Location: PROWLING THE BADLANDS Posts: 17,399	oh shit, guys! behold! a night mare!

09-22-2016, 09:25 AM	#11
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	COME BACK PAAAAAAALE HOARSE

09-22-2016, 10:10 AM	#12
Venom Ownz Location: United States Posts: 859	Dusty screams through doors and imaginary floors.

09-22-2016, 11:57 AM	#13
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	I really hate Annie Dog, I've never had a mood bad enough that made me like that song

09-22-2016, 02:56 PM	#15
DemonUnicorns Ownz Posts: 879	Surely there are acoustic/piano versions of all songs, yet Billy probably left some off the reissue. Otherwise, check out what's in the reissue—some not so electronic versions.

09-22-2016, 03:40 PM	#17
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	Idk to me there's something grating about his vocals on that track. And I barely even notice the drumming. I love the way he sings on B!TNM and Appels though.....Adore is hit or miss with me and I have to be in a pensive mood. I'm more of a crunchy guitar fan

09-22-2016, 10:26 PM	#20
NovaFritz Apocalyptic Poster Location: luna Posts: 2,721	I think Annie Dog is probably the best song on the album. Compelling theme, really doesn't slow down the album at a critical time, engaging mid-tempo beat, and some of the best piano work this side of Thelonius Monk.

09-22-2016, 10:52 PM	#23
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	And yeah I don't think Adore is all that techno-y either. Just some electronic elements. But techno calls to mind auto tune, sampling, and pounding beats that aren't present in Adore.

09-23-2016, 12:58 AM	#25
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	Hey I've heard people defend worse songs in more exaggerated ways so I had to check

09-23-2016, 12:59 AM	#26
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	And be careful what you wish for with that synth

09-23-2016, 06:10 PM	#29
crabshack Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,173	Aside from the obvious standout tracks, Adore is an album of glorified demos.

09-23-2016, 06:13 PM	#30
crabshack Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,173	When you listen to the Reissue, the only differences between a final version and a demo/rehearsal version are either con-comped vocals or a slightly different drum program. It's telling when you listen to, for example, take 10(!) of Annie Dog and he's still yelling out chord changes.