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Old 05-06-2017, 08:57 AM   #1
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Default How could The Smashing Pumpkins even redeem themselves?

Release an amazing record? Release a masterpiece? Would that even be enough?

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 09:17 AM   #2
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I'd say so. A return to form and a tour, and I'd happily forget all the bullshit

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 09:17 AM   #3
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of course that's not going to happen

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:15 AM   #4
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It's not "the sp" that needs redeemed, the true sp is unimpeachable

It's bill needs it

Poor bill

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:22 AM   #5
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They/he cannot

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:41 AM   #6
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Old 05-06-2017, 03:56 PM   #7
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when the machina mystery is revealed, the obelisks which came with the teargarden EPs will guide the owners of the true original copies of Machina II on vinyl to the tower on the front of Oceania. The vinyl discs will be placed in a circle and the tower will become a time portal. The liner notes of PI will be read aloud except this time they seem to make sense. It's a magically encrypted letter from future Billy Corgan with explicit instructions for the brave time travelers. They go through the portal and on the night of Dec. 2, 2000, as the last notes of Silverfuck die, shots ring out from the balcony of the metro. A sniper takes off. Billy Corgan collapses on stage. "Is it bad, James?" he asks as he reaches up and holds Iha's boylike face. "No, just a scratch. Hang in there Billy, help will be here any second." Billy motions for James to bring his ear close as he wheezes violently on aspirated blood. "I'm sorry for everything... Tell D'arcy.... she was right....."

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 05:20 PM   #8
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At this point I'm just happy when I find out Billy somehow wasn't involved in things like charging people thousands for a concert then trapping them all on a tropical island.

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 07:14 PM   #9
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Release an amazing record? Release a masterpiece? Would that even be enough?
Billy Corgan ≠ The Smashing Pumpkins


Billy needs to open himself to collaboration. Fans place value in the personnel in a band. He seriously needs to work with a lyricist to open his bandwidth so he can focus his time and energy on composing and recording quality music.

Having James and Jimmy back in the band as contributing members would be a huge help. Idk if that's on the radar or not, but that would be a major step in the right direction.

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 07:34 PM   #10
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Honestly, if he could just stop singing with all that horrible, horrible vibrato, it'd improve he music 1000 times over.

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 07:43 PM   #11
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Honestly, if he could just stop singing it'd improve he music 1000 times over.
I fixed your post.

 
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Old 05-06-2017, 08:28 PM   #12
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The only way Billy can redeem the band is by making the Smashing Pumpkins = Billy, James, D'arcy, and Jimmy.

*and I'll add: that the primary goal for the band shouldn't be to chase their former glory, but rather just play a few shows, record a few tunes, and nurture their chemistry.

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Old 05-07-2017, 04:37 AM   #13
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when the machina mystery is revealed, the obelisks which came with the teargarden EPs will guide the owners of the true original copies of Machina II on vinyl to the tower on the front of Oceania. The vinyl discs will be placed in a circle and the tower will become a time portal. The liner notes of PI will be read aloud except this time they seem to make sense. It's a magically encrypted letter from future Billy Corgan with explicit instructions for the brave time travelers. They go through the portal and on the night of Dec. 2, 2000, as the last notes of Silverfuck die, shots ring out from the balcony of the metro. A sniper takes off. Billy Corgan collapses on stage. James leaves without saying goodbye.
fixed that for you.

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 06:39 AM   #14
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Brought a tear to my eye.

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 06:40 AM   #15
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...and still the music would suck.

You can't fix wrong.

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 06:41 AM   #16
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Just walk away and listen to BORIS.

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 04:57 PM   #17
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billy gets on stage with the whole band & bernie sanders and says I was wrong and then plays porcelina for 30 minutes

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 04:58 PM   #18
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At this point I'm just happy when I find out Billy somehow wasn't involved in things like charging people thousands for a concert then trapping them all on a tropical island.
thats good imo

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 05:47 PM   #19
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there's nothing bill can do to wipe away this stain.

he's like Mel Gibson now

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 08:32 PM   #20
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Actually on second thought releasing the metro dvd would really help.

And bElli could always commit seppuku. That wouldn't hurt.

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:09 PM   #21
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He'd have a lot of denouncing to do

 
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:47 PM   #22
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The worst thing about SP2+ is Billy Corgan's opinions and attitude. The rest is already forgotten.

 
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:58 PM   #23
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when the machina mystery is revealed, the obelisks which came with the teargarden EPs will guide the owners of the true original copies of Machina II on vinyl to the tower on the front of Oceania. The vinyl discs will be placed in a circle and the tower will become a time portal. The liner notes of PI will be read aloud except this time they seem to make sense. It's a magically encrypted letter from future Billy Corgan with explicit instructions for the brave time travelers. They go through the portal and on the night of Dec. 2, 2000, as the last notes of Silverfuck die, shots ring out from the balcony of the metro. A sniper takes off. Billy Corgan collapses on stage. "Is it bad, James?" he asks as he reaches up and holds Iha's boylike face. "No, just a scratch. Hang in there Billy, help will be here any second." Billy motions for James to bring his ear close as he wheezes violently on aspirated blood. "I'm sorry for everything... Tell D'arcy.... she was right....."

I want some of whatever you're smoking

 
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Old 05-09-2017, 05:56 AM   #24
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No you don't. Trust me, what you really want is what I'm smoking.

420 4 LYFE

 
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Old 05-10-2017, 03:03 AM   #25
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Old 05-10-2017, 03:17 AM   #26
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if time travel exists, wouldn't we already know how to do it?

 
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Old 05-10-2017, 04:06 AM   #27
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TEH CHICKEN AND THE HAM PARADOCKS

 
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Are you seriously discounting the use of a time machine back to 1995?
"time machine" is a misnomer, it's more like a magic portal

 
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:14 AM   #29
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mark tulin's soul is the power source

 
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:25 PM   #30
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He can't. Reuniting the original line-up might feel nice for a while, but the damage has been done. At best, he'll do a surprisingly ok acoustic-ish solo album eventually.

 
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