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Old 03-13-2017, 10:43 PM   #31
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that doesn't even make sense as a sentence, omega.

 
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Old 03-13-2017, 10:54 PM   #32
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As opposed to pretending there is.

 
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:02 PM   #33
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word salad, man

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:42 AM   #34
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Lots of radicals in that mix here and certainly in western europe where there's sharia law zones and the like. gang rapes and worse...and the politicians blame the scantily clad woman.
Yep, sharia all over the place here dude. I allow my wife to leave the house every now and then, but only when wearing a burka and exactly 3 meters behind me. Then I constantly change my walking tempo or start running in the other direction out of the blue. Lots of fun!

Seriously, have you been in western europe lately or do you simply believe everything that is fed to you on those extreme right wing gossip blogs?

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Old 03-14-2017, 07:57 AM   #35
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Yep, sharia all over the place here dude. I allow my wife to leave the house every now and then, but only when wearing a burka and exactly 3 meters behind me. Then I constantly change my walking tempo or start running in the other direction out of the blue. Lots of fun!

Seriously, have you been in western europe lately or do you simply believe everything that is fed to you on those extreme right wing gossip blogs?
So the whole sharia law thing has been overblown in Europe, but there is Nazism everywhere in the U.S.

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Old 03-14-2017, 08:01 AM   #36
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look dude, racism is a thing because people create these conceptions of "race" and then order society & means of production around them. its an ism, a system of exploitation. i'm sure someone explained this to you by now and you never listened.

what steve king is talking about "restoring civilization" (to what? when?) and you talking specifically about how he's defending "my race" i don't even know what that is. I'm an irish guy, to me white oppression drove my four bears from their land from time immemorial to this land where my more recent four bears were baptised as "white" because this country is primarily about dividing society based on race it does, constantly, all the time, forever and ever. ok? fuck white people. what is white anyway? there's urbane hipsters and drooling suburban lowlifes. There's bearded curmudgeons and clean shaven walking golf shirts. when i hear someone talk about "white pride" and "defending my race" i only think of the worst

i'm confident i know and celebrate far more about western/white civiliazation & culture than steve king has even conceptualized. i don't need to play for team whitey when someone goes "this country/society is racist af" i just say "damn sure is"

i'm also sick of all these motherfucking fascists in my motherfucking government
TOC is right t-lish; you can't say "race isn't even a thing" and then whine about how everything is racist. It doesn't make any sense.

Look at the crazy you just typed-- "Fuck white people; what is white people?"

Just Looney Toons right there

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 09:27 AM   #37
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but there is Nazism everywhere in the U.S.

lol
Please point me to where i said that

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Old 03-14-2017, 09:34 AM   #38
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Also please tell me where exactly is sharia law in western Europe.

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 09:45 AM   #39
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hahaha, when you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 09:59 AM   #40
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Just trolling then. Nazi

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:25 AM   #41
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:31 AM   #42
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race is a cultural construct

it is a real thing with real effects because "when people view their situations as real they are real in their consequences"

race has no biological or scientific underpinning whatsoever

not really hard to understand unless you're just a racist

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:44 AM   #43
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Smashingjj these guys are pure undiluted dunderheads. You are wasting your time.

 
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I have the same message for you rbg. They are just getting off on provoking us and being inflamatory. Fuck them.

(Cigs withdrawals make me cranky)

 
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race is a cultural construct

it is a real thing with real effects because "when people view their situations as real they are real in their consequences"

race has no biological or scientific underpinning whatsoever

not really hard to understand unless you're just a racist
The word "race" as we use it in this context is a misnomer, but that does not mean there are not biological and scientific differences between the races. It is ignorant, not racist, to make that claim. To try to say that one race is inherently better than another is racist, but merely seeing differences is not.

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:24 AM   #46
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The word "race" as we use it in this context is a misnomer, but that does not mean there are not biological and scientific differences between the races. It is ignorant, not racist, to make that claim. To try to say that one race is inherently better than another is racist, but merely seeing differences is not.
There is no scientific underpinning to the idea of race, period. Race is an entirely cultural idea. If you want to talk in scientific terms you can talk about populations and genetics, but that's not the same thing at all. There is no biological dividing line between any one racial category we have devised and another. What we see as race is literally family resemblance on a grand scale.

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:32 AM   #47
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Race and ethnicity, especially our modern conception of race, developed as a result of colonialism and slavery.

To suggest that the idea of race is some kind of analog to a scientific idea like genetic populations is absolutely wrong.

There is more genetic diversity within different populations in Africa than between all other "racial groups" in the entire world. Diversity of genetics has no link to what we see as race, which is for the most part just a few obvious phenotypes we have focused on obsessively, thus creating a conception that there are inherent differences between arbitrarily separated groups

 
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professor, stop spamming me with dicks and explain this..how do you land on race being "entirely a cultural idea" ?

what are you thoughts on stereotypes? do they exist for a reason or are they just bigoted blanket statements based on one's first impression (or continual impressions?)
How do I land on it? lol as towering as my intellect may be, I can't take credit for this widely understood piece of information which is centered on having a basic understanding of genetics and is covered in the first week of any Anth 101 course.

It is possible to make meaningful cultural generalizations in many cases. In fact, "culture" is literally a collection of generalizations. A stereotype is usually understood to be a generalization specifically meant to denigrate a group or to emphasize its otherness. There are also different kinds of stereotypes... some may focus on exaggerated perceptions about a group, whereas others are literally nonsense. So I don't know exactly what you mean, but either way racial stereotypes are ideas about culture, not genetics. Race has no relation to human genetics. It has everything to do with culture.

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 12:27 PM   #49
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e.g.

"black people are good at sports" – stereotype with no scientific support. people with dark skin or whose ancestors are from warm climates are not genetically predisposed to be athletic, it's an absurd belief. perhaps there are a lot of black individuals in American sports, I don't even know because sports, but even if it is true it's totally unclear why, beyond that it is some confluence of cultural mechanisms. It could be related to the intersection of race and class and unequal opportunity access. But the stereotype is the same as "Jews are good with money." There are a lot of Jewish accountants and bankers, but it's not because Jews evolved to like money more than other people.

"black people are predisposed to sickle cell anemia" – a statement of limited understanding, but one based on quantified scientific study. Sickle cell is a genetic variation which protects people from malaria. It is more common in populations from malarial areas, including some places in Africa, southern Europe, and the Middle East. Because of what is sometimes known as "boy/girl next door phenomenon," meaning that most people procreate with people who are from the same geographic area as them, populations stratify and certain traits become exaggerated. This is the same principal that causes families to look more alike each other than compared to random people off the street, but on a macro level. This is also a very pared down way of explaining genetic populations. Bottom line, sickle cell is more prevalent in black Americans than white Americans for example, because of the conditions our ancestors' populations were responding to (in this case malarial mosquitos), and then limited breeding spreads that trait around to a high degree within that population, leaving individuals from other populations less likely to have the trait. Compare to certain diseases which are very prevalent with Ashkenazi Jews. It's because families are alike to each other and when cultural ideas like race limit who you have kids with, you wind up having kids with other members of your big family which just perpetuates the higher rate of those diseases within the group.


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Old 03-14-2017, 01:59 PM   #50
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Please point me to where i said that
there is naziism all over the us, the Southern Poverty Law Center & Anti-Defamation League has been tracking the undeniable spike in white supremacist activity throughout the country. Graveyards are being defaced, synagogues are receiving bomb threats. I'm sure poots believes until the end of days that this is something that happened before but was unreported, but he's a nazi so of course he'd say that.

 
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To suggest that the idea of race is some kind of analog to a scientific idea like genetic populations is absolutely wrong.
its called "racism" i think

 
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:06 PM   #52
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i've seen people kick around the idea that american blacks are good at sports because they are from slave stock selected for strength and bred like animals, i don't know any truth to this, or if this would wash out over time

 
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i personally believe that its because they're financially & socially denied other avenues for opportunity so there is a cultural focus on athletics or entertainment to get money, since that's the two ways the most black men & women have gotten rich

i think ethiopia & kenya dominate long distance track not because of genetics necessarily but because of a combination of high altitude & glorious tradition

 
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like, nobody goes "man what's the genetics of why austrians & swiss are good at skiing?" i mean jesus guys they live in the alps and basically invented it

 
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i personally believe that its because they're financially & socially denied other avenues for opportunity
IMO this seems like it's probably a big factor. White people in general do not need to fall back on physical prowess to make money or get a job. There might be something to be said of people from higher classes living more cerebral existences because of privilege

 
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jews have a lot of money because at the turn of the economy at the end of the middle ages, the jews had become an urban group with some money because of their unique religious immigrant status at the time. jews got into funding mechinization & industrialization and got into banking because, they were urban already, and the aristocrats felt all of this was a fad that was beneath them. This then explains why, towards the end of the expansion age (i.e. 18th&19th centuries), jews had a dick ton of money and often the creditors of the very aristocrats who claimed to rule them (those "dastardly" rothchilds are a good example). Coupled with the Jews rigid otherness in devotion to their beliefs, common people suspected them and it was easy for the white elite to manufacture anti-semetism & jealousy towards them.

 
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it's not about 'you' saying it
it isn't? i would have sworn that was a direct reply to my post. why are you talking to me

 
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hmm.. well here's at least one place that says "freedom can go to hell!" LOL

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i didn't know places could say things.

what the fuck are you trying to say if anything at all

 
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but sweden

it is on fire

 
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the precedent cant lye!

 
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