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08-08-2014, 03:44 PM | #121 |
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Bloodflowers comes closest, but isn't quite as good imo. The ones you mentioned are easily the best, though
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08-08-2014, 03:47 PM | #122 |
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08-09-2014, 12:29 AM | #123 |
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viola is an instrument haha
that's a pretty good malapropism, which i think we should rename to monteism |
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08-09-2014, 01:58 AM | #124 |
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10-17-2014, 12:29 PM | #125 |
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Pretty fucking shitty this thread happened when i wasn't around.
Not cool. I feel like my obviously highly valued opinion on all things Cure would have really made the difference. Though in my extremely unfortunate and untimely absence noyen did admirably. But you know, noyen is not EXACTLY me. |
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10-17-2014, 12:44 PM | #126 |
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And yeah Bloodflowers fucking sucks. Trilogy my fucking ass. More like Smith realised "hey my most well received records are the darker ones like Pornography and Disintegration, i'm gonna hype this one saying it's just kinda like those" nice try. I mean I prefer Wild Mood Swings to Bloodflowers. Which says a lot. Not that WMS is really any good. I'd say i blame Lol for the dragged out court case between Wish and WMS which i'd like to think caused Smith to lose vision of what the band was but let's face it, shades of future shittiness were already apparent on Wish and THEN really apparent around the time they did like.... Dredd Song.
The Cure remains a band whose body of work has to be analyzed more by songs than records which is why i still always recommend newcomers start with Standing on the beach (or like Galore or whatever other singles compilations they did, i haven't kept track). I think Disintegration is the only perfect record they made. KMKMKM has about 7 or 8 songs too many (Fight fight fight? jesus christ..not even their 2000s stuff is THAT bad). Head on the Door has The Blood and Screw.....I suppose Faith or Seventeen Seconds are really pretty even, but at 8 songs, it's hard to really fuck it up. And while i got into the Cure during Wish Era, I don't like it as much as i used to. their last good record for sure though. Anything after that is not worth bothering. I have this theory which kinda isn't one but pretty much the actual truth, that the Cure started going downhill when Smith decided shitty acoustic guitar strumming (well that's a redundant sentence, its an acoustic guitar being strummed, of course it's shitty) was needed in every fucking song. Listen to bloodflowers, it's there. And it all started in wish era. Also you haven't lived if you haven't heard THIS version of A Forest (also everyone should own Show and In orange, i assume they're both on dvd now? I still only have them on vhs tapes...): And sure Smith is the brain and all but i wouldn't take the Cure without Gallup. Well it started without and to be fair Michael Dempsey's basslines are great but he was basically sacked because Smith wanted more simplistic lines. Also from 82 to 84 gallup left...marking the only so so period in the cure's 80's career if you ask me...the top and all (though japanese whispers is alright, and the caterpillar is a great song). Coincidence? I don't think so. Though the very commercial turn they took then is what allowed them to breakthrough so to speak. I picked an instrument the first time because of the cure, a bass because of Gallup. I learned to play 90% on cure songs the first two years or so. I have a black semi hollow bass because of that Dick Knight custom he has (seen in the above vid, and yeah i think he copied that on Peter Hook's Eccleshall but y'know...). I was the bassist in a cure tribute band for like 6 months once (shameful i know, i was young and needed the...well there was no money). Basically what i'm saying is....... if i could fuck him, i might. (especially since he's the only one that still looks any good....) Simple but efficient and melodic bass playing, you could learn that from worse. |
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10-17-2014, 12:53 PM | #127 | |
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probably my favorite release from them, though i ain't opposed to disintegration, faith and japanese whispers either always had a thing for the self-titled album too, that was i guess the album that was out when i first started actually getting into them remember seeing the end of the world video at some summer camp thing while mtv-whatever-the-hell was playing good videos Last edited by Mals Marola : 10-17-2014 at 01:33 PM. |
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10-17-2014, 02:24 PM | #128 |
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Trots been spouting off his expert opinion on this board forever, yet he never listened to the Cure before? What a loser. Everything Trots has ever said should be suspect and taken with a MASSIVE GRAIN OF SALT.
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10-17-2014, 02:30 PM | #129 |
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lotta bands out there takes time to listen to all the bands
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10-17-2014, 06:05 PM | #130 |
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Seriously get fucked
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10-17-2014, 06:18 PM | #131 |
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Fight, fight, fight is awesome EB
Cheezy and OTT as hell, but still awesome |
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10-17-2014, 08:59 PM | #132 |
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This is one of those bands where I wish I could erase my memory of ever hearing them so I could experience it all again.
I've really burnt them out and it's sad |
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10-17-2014, 09:24 PM | #133 |
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Yup thats me and pixies, zep, sleater kinney radiohead etc
Take them out of rotation entirely for a while, worked for me & sp |
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10-17-2014, 09:25 PM | #134 |
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And s-k, really. Im so excited for the box set next week i keep pissing myself
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10-17-2014, 09:28 PM | #135 | |
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the glove tho, i have been listening to that reissue with robert smith vocals and suddenly that album is amazing. it's a perfect companion to the head on the door and the top. Jeanette Landray was a huge mistake. i am so glad he agreed to let that stuff out. of course it was steve severins idea too and not roberts. i really think it's good with his vocals. just like WHY did they not just put those "demos" out. they sound just great. |
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10-17-2014, 09:29 PM | #136 |
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10-17-2014, 09:46 PM | #137 |
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i recently have got into the cure a bit too, head on the door is an amazing album, every song on it is a masterpiece.
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10-17-2014, 09:57 PM | #138 | |
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noyen im surprised you actually kinda even listen to their current stuff. I did give a shot to like 2 or 3 songs on 4:13 (and saw them live on that tour actually which means i probably heard more like 6 or 7) but i just couldn't even... and i'm pretty sure i did give a short listen to some songs on the self titled. I have stopped hoping the cure still had anything left to offer when BF came out (at the time i did really like Out of this world though, i actually remember listening to that song a lot on the way back from the UC/metro shows chicago trip, but now i don't know). On the other hand it's unfair to expect of a band to just release the same stuff they wrote 20 to 30 years ago. but i guess i don't expect. They earned the right to suck now and just tour on the strength of their old stuff. |
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10-17-2014, 10:00 PM | #139 |
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The Blood is one of the best Cure songs
Screw is also pretty great Untroo fan |
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10-17-2014, 10:02 PM | #140 |
Minion of Satan
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no you are. What's next? You're gonna tell me you love Torture? (actually musically it's alright but those lyrics and that singing...)
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10-17-2014, 10:02 PM | #141 |
Minion of Satan
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HANGING LIKE THIS LIKE A VAMPIRE BAT
I call this pandering to the goths. |
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10-17-2014, 10:03 PM | #142 |
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TORTURE IS FUCKING AMAZING LYRICS AND ALL DUDE YOU FUCKING SUCK
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10-17-2014, 10:03 PM | #143 |
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10-17-2014, 10:04 PM | #144 |
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10-17-2014, 10:04 PM | #145 |
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I feel like if you don't like Torture or Fight Fight Fight you don't really fully like The Cure
Part of them is the super melodramatic vocals |
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10-17-2014, 10:06 PM | #146 |
Minion of Satan
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See how am i supposed to think you know what good lyrics are now. I mean you go on about Mark E smith and now i think yeah but if he thinks torture is amazing lyrics...
Even if you claimed smith was being ironic (which i dont think so, one of the thing he said about Moz is that he though this irony schtick was just boring or something like that), it would still be bad. |
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10-17-2014, 10:09 PM | #147 |
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The Torture lyrics are good because added with the vocals Robert Smith has a way of portraying everything as so intense that it's painful even things like Sex
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10-17-2014, 10:10 PM | #148 |
Minion of Satan
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no. that's when the cure is bad. Like you know i can buy it when he's singing disintegration (the song), i believe he was on the verge of tears singing a lot of these songs like he claims, but when he does the oh oh ohs ah ah ahs inside ou-ou-out dea-ea-ead and all the hundred other three syllables or words he sings three times on kmkmkm (seriously i studied this, kiss me kiss me kiss me, show me show me show me, oh ohoh sah ah ah, i think kmkmkm should have been called Three, its all about repeats of three) it's just lame attempt at...emotion..and...i dont know..vocal styling.
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10-17-2014, 10:11 PM | #149 |
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10-17-2014, 10:14 PM | #150 | |
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Again Untroo Fan |
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