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Old 10-29-2014, 06:14 PM   #121
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Because I posted a Tool video and said how much I liked the song?
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:15 PM   #122
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grunge isn't a real genre

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:18 PM   #123
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It definitely is. Pearl jam soundgarden stp everclear etc

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:21 PM   #124
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grunge isn't a real genre
Thank you. I would rather just call them alternative rock.

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:24 PM   #125
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Please don't compare Soundgarden to Everclear.

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:31 PM   #126
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I tried listening to Pearl Jam years ago but I really, seriously disliked Vedder's voice. I don't know why, but I couldn't get past it.

Also, I have never been a fan of Bob Dylan - and I have tried - because he was a great lyricist at times but I can't stand his voice. I mean I find it grating and abysmal. Am I a philistine?

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:59 PM   #127
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Soundgarden is pretty much the worst imo

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 08:47 PM   #128
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You're the worst

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:19 PM   #129
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I can get behind Melvins and Nirvana

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:20 PM   #130
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They were more Punk than anything else

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:40 PM   #131
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:42 PM   #132
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Hipsters are not a real thing

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:45 PM   #133
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I can never understand people being so against the idea of wanting intelligence from the music you listen to

 
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Old 10-29-2014, 11:46 PM   #134
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Old 10-30-2014, 12:23 AM   #135
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Old 10-30-2014, 12:50 AM   #136
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more Punk than anything else

 
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:02 AM   #137
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i dunno i think all of this 90s seattle crap is well past expiry date and needs to be buried. i'm tired of people acting like it was the last time anything mainstream was good, heartfelt, or real or whatever the fuck. love how people took exception to everclear which are definitely in that scene, and not with STP. just because you don't like the group doesn't mean they aren't still grunge

melvins started in 1983 so lumping them in with all of that shit is basically like saying Dinosaur Jr was a grunge band

 
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:06 AM   #138
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Zeppelin is timeless

Tool is already dated
agree totally on the former

on the latter, eeehhhhhh

 
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:27 AM   #139
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i dunno i think all of this 90s seattle crap is well past expiry date and needs to be buried. i'm tired of people acting like it was the last time anything mainstream was good, heartfelt, or real or whatever the fuck. love how people took exception to everclear which are definitely in that scene, and not with STP. just because you don't like the group doesn't mean they aren't still grunge

melvins started in 1983 so lumping them in with all of that shit is basically like saying Dinosaur Jr was a grunge band
idk if any of this is somehow a response to me but I just wanna say that I don't give a shit about a marketing term

Everclear and STP both suck and none of that is Kurt Cobain's fault
Nirvana doesn't need to be "retired" any more than the overhyped classic rock acts that they share the Rolling Stone Top Whatever lists with
These are popular bands and they are from the last period in time when there really was a monoculture that fostered these "iconic" type acts. People are nostalgic for that feeling. These contemporary bands seem kinda flimsy in comparison

 
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The funny thing is, Grunge was never a real genre.

It was just a way to lump bands together that were from the same area, and make $$$. Mudhoney was the first band to break it open, and Soundgarden and AIC and Pearl Jam were all doing their thing, and then Nirvana just blew the roof off with Nevermind, and all of a sudden the record execs said, "Hey kids, check it out, it's the new sensation, it's called "GRUNGE"!!. Buy Records!!

And somewhere, Billy Corgan was scratching his chin, thinking "hey, this just might work."

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Old 10-30-2014, 01:36 AM   #141
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it wasn't directed at you, mostly just a rebuttal for my controversial, contrarian opinion

1) I'm glad iconic acts are dead
2) most grungetards do not even acknowledge that they are nostalgic for the monoculture and iconic bands. I think you're right, that's what they want. Fuzzy is our picture perfect grungetard and he's constantly worried about "hits" and "the radio" and pumpkins returning to "the mainstream" but the big issue i have is that these very same people think there was something real, honest, genuine about "alternative rock" from the 90s that is absent from any kind of percieved mainstream they were "fighting against." there's a definite spirit in "alternative rock" and/or "grunge" that it's somehow against the grain, non conformist, not mainstream. Even though Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam are as mainstream as it gets, as well known as any dinosaur AOR acts. In fact, they basically have become dinosaur acts.

I think that kind of dishonesty is what irritates me the most about 90s "alternative rock" fans. I think that's why i developed such a disdain for it, even though It was my thing when I was 17 (i loved almost all the bands that i currently disparage). Ultimately other people ruined it for me, constantly overpraising it, constantly acting like it was genuine, DIY, "alternative;" it's goddamn irritating. It's that kind of feeling that it's the last time music was any good, how many people who are our age just stop following any music after about 97. It's just I mean FUCK GRUNGE FUCK IT IN THE EAR FUCK IT IN THE OTHER EAR

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Old 10-30-2014, 01:39 AM   #142
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the funny thing is Grunge was never a real genre

it was just a way to lump bands together that were from the same area, and make $$$. Mudhoney was the band that broke it open, and Soundgarden and AIC and Pearl Jam were doing their thing, and then Nirvana just blew the roof off with Nevermind, and all of a sudden the record execs said, "hey kids, check it out, it's the new sensation, it's called "GRUNGE". Buy Records!

and somewhere, Billy Corgan was scratching his chin, Thinking "hey, this just might work."
i keep hearing this crap about marketing terms - but these bands, from the same regional scene all sound VERY similar, i don't think anyone can actually argue that Soundgarden, AIC, Pearl Jam et al don't have similar influences, sounds and worked with each other extensively. that's what a scene is and that's what creates a genre. now, lumping Nirvana in with this i've already said is incorrect. granted, genre arguments are dumb but i still find it perplexing that someone can say with a straight face that soundgarden and pearl jam aren't in a specific genre together

SP doesn't sound like any of them, or really any of their contemporaries, and are and always will be the best 90s band

 
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can't tell if you genuinely enjoyed the post or actually thought i was completely serious

oh well, in any case to each his own!

 
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:44 AM   #144
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> i still find it perplexing that someone can say with a straight face that soundgarden and pearl jam aren't in a specific genre together

Because they don't sound alike at all?

 
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Nirvana isnt really grunge its sludgepunk
Black Sabbath meets the Sex Pistols.

 
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:48 AM   #146
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i just say it's pixies meets melvins, that's about the sum of what nirvana is

 
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> i still find it perplexing that someone can say with a straight face that soundgarden and pearl jam aren't in a specific genre together

Because they don't sound alike at all?
yeah this is one of those grungetard arguments that's like talking to tool fans about a perfect circle

yeah PJ and Soundgarden have NO COMMON ELEMENTS WHATSOEVER

 
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Old 10-30-2014, 01:49 AM   #148
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>SP doesn't sound like any of them, or really any of their contemporaries, and are and always will be the best 90s band

Seriously? I'm a huge SP fan, but their are a shitload of bands who could take the crown of "best 90's band" as if anyone gives a fuck.

 
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yeah this is one of those grungetard arguments that's like talking to tool fans about a perfect circle

yeah PJ and Soundgarden have NO COMMON ELEMENTS WHATSOEVER
name the common elements then

 
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lumping Nirvana in with this i've already said is incorrect.
now what's this all about

if yer goin to wave the "grunge was real in more than marketing ways" flag why not just admit it? nirvana are and were the quintessential grunge band

 
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