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Old 07-30-2014, 08:53 AM   #1
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Does this do a good job of explaining your position on transgenderism?

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:04 AM   #2
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I thought this could be an interesting topic to discuss, especially since we have a resident radfem

Come on guys

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:27 AM   #3
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I thought her position is more of gender deconstructionism than psychological and biological identity, or social position.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:29 AM   #4
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Basically by one man saying he is a woman, it embraced the notion that gender is a real thing, a state of mind or being, whereas she felt like that's nonsense and femininity is a cultural tradition or social construct. At least that's how I thought she saw it.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:32 AM   #5
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Who do you mean by she?

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:34 AM   #6
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Charmbag.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:51 AM   #7
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From the standpoint I described, one would say gender signs on bathrooms further segregate people, and stand to highlight the differences between men and women. And it might enforce rape culture by keeping women protected from men because women and transpeople could be attacked by men and by keeping men separate we accept that possibility as just an inevitability.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:53 AM   #8
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Rather than men just not thinking it's okay to sexually harass people, we just stick them in different bathrooms.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:06 AM   #9
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Men's rooms generally have changing stations wherever women's do. Here, anyway.

Best option is single stall rooms. But that would be inconvenient and expensive in lots of places.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:55 AM   #10
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I just rock a diaper 24/7, haters.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 12:32 PM   #11
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How many men have a urinal in their home? Its not a requirement for a bathroom that is used by people that happen to have a penis.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 12:37 PM   #12
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And honestly it fucking sucks having zero privacy to relieve yourself because the one stall is occupied.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 12:54 PM   #13
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Yeah same. Urinals are last resorts for me.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:40 PM   #14
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How many men have a urinal in their home? Its not a requirement for a bathroom that is used by people that happen to have a penis.
i knew an upper-middle class gay couple that had not one but two two urinals in their master bathroom. ever since i saw that i was like "my dream house has a urinal in it."

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:50 PM   #15
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And that urinal is a woman with an open mouth. o/

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:51 PM   #16
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Wait, why did they have two?

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:57 PM   #17
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i knew an upper-middle class gay couple that had not one but two two urinals in their master bathroom. ever since i saw that i was like "my dream house has a urinal in it."
a friend of mine built a house recently. He built a "man cave" on the basement floor with a bar, beer taps, and a bathroom with a urinal. It was the first time I'd seen one in a house.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:08 PM   #18
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Wait, why did they have two?
well just to clarify they were right next to each other and that's as far as i'm going to go in answering your question.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:26 PM   #19
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Well, is there only one bathroom in their whole house? Because if so, that's brilliant. If not, it's awesome.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:25 PM   #20
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I don't think there's anyone left here who has a sincere interest in my opinion

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:46 PM   #21
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yeah i'm not sure anybody here has it in themselves to have another megathread about this topic.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:48 PM   #22
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:54 PM   #23
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call for a mistrial, eulogy

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:02 PM   #24
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My point in referencing her and not you or zack was that I think she's the only one who would agree with the radfem stance.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:03 PM   #25
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I don't think there's anyone left here who has a sincere interest in my opinion
Well then just answer with yes or no.

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:03 PM   #26
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yeah i'm not sure anybody here has it in themselves to have another megathread about this topic.
There is nothing happening here now

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:31 PM   #27
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At this point I am only on board with pieces of radical feminist ideas. I am sure none of the people mentioned in this article would be into someone like me calling myself a radical feminist. So I guess the answer for me personally is no?

 
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:32 PM   #28
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I don't think there's anyone left here who has a sincere interest in my opinion
fwiw i do

 
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:50 AM   #29
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i think we already know her opinion

why can't we just leave it at that

 
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:39 AM   #30
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Her shitty, terrible opinion.

 
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