Recent MCIS demo leaks (one and two, the tracer)

VoxUpDoc · 03-10-2016, 04:50 AM

Unless I'm blind did the thread linking to a recent One and Two Youtube video covered by music news websites, and which contained the quote from the SP FB page get taken down?

Did something bad happen in there I missed? Please PM details.

On pretty much the only board left on the internet discussing the Smashing Pumpkins, with 300 active users, which contained no direct links to stolen material, threads are being DELETED? under threat of legal action from the band?

Then what is the point of even having this forum?

Probably my last post as I can barely listen to the old stuff now without thinking about what a tool Corgan is and coming here is like gathering to witness a car crash.

If we're gonna be censored as well, forget it.

Beta · 03-10-2016, 05:00 AM

where is this discussed here?
http://www.stereogum.com/1864721/ori...f&utm_campaign

cant think that i am the first...

VoxUpDoc · 03-10-2016, 05:03 AM

Thread got deleted. I wouldn't expect it to fall under no linked unreleased material rules as it wasnt leaked directly on to here.

Why should Netphoria not discuss SP news covered elsewhere on the internet?

Hopefully we'll get an answer...

StillBecomingApart · 03-10-2016, 05:54 AM

That's the death of netphoria

StillBecomingApart · 03-10-2016, 05:59 AM

Also, that youtube user deleted all videos...

VoxUpDoc · 03-10-2016, 06:27 AM

I guess the question is whether the thread was taken down by the thread starter (and vid uploader???) for fear of prosecution or by Mr. Pakula for breach of board guidelines or some other reason.

sjpaterra · 03-10-2016, 11:53 AM

why don't people upload this stuff from a VPN or using TOR? That way it's completely anonymous (almost) and harder to trace... i'd leak that shit from brazil, taiwan, vancouver, and brussels

Cool As Ice Cream · 03-10-2016, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune

looks like "some other reason" - Andrew nuked it without explanation.

smells like monty to me...

Cool As Ice Cream · 03-10-2016, 06:41 AM

i guess nobody involved will say a word about this.

TheAeroplane · 03-10-2016, 07:30 AM

This is what reunites these fuckers after ignoring and hating on each other after all these years ?

VoxUpDoc · 08:38 AM

You really think James and D'arcy were even contacted about this, and it wasn't just a blanket statement from the band management and a way for Billy to distribute responsiblity for the reaction away from himself?

Shadaloo · 04-06-2020, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAeroplane

This is what reunites these fuckers after ignoring and hating on each other after all these years ?

History shows that this is the best post

BurtSampson · 05-26-2020, 11:57 AM

I can't find the demo of The Tracer anywhere

MyOneAndOnly · 03-10-2016, 08:41 AM

Billy issued that threat all on his own.

But I don't doubt that the rest of the band feels the same way.

VoxUpDoc · 03-10-2016, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Billy issued that threat all on his own.

But I don't doubt that the rest of the band feels the same way.

They'd probably feel the same way but I doubt they care so much as to issue threats or even pursue it legally. They've distanced themselves from the band to a large extent.

brandnewfan · 03-10-2016, 09:23 AM

Did anyone hear the X.Y.U. outtake before it was deleted? I just missed it.

matcada · 03-10-2016, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandnewfan

Did anyone hear the X.Y.U. outtake before it was deleted? I just missed it.

Did not hear about that (just One and Two, The Tracer and Muzzle). If someone has it, please PM.

D. · 03-10-2016, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandnewfan

Did anyone hear the X.Y.U. outtake before it was deleted? I just missed it.

Yes.

Ram27 · 03-10-2016, 10:29 AM

James Iha would not bother prosecuting someone to the full extent of the law because someone shared old studio demos of his with like 100 fans who have nothing better to do

And by the way, do we have any idea where these tracks even came from? Like, it seems weird that they were mixed and put onto a CD without any intent of them being released

ButtHash · 03-10-2016, 10:55 AM

themadcaplaughs · 03-10-2016, 11:11 AM

-Original 4
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VoxUpDoc · 03-10-2016, 12:00 PM

Legally there is nothing the band could do to this board, for members linking to public, non-affiliated Youtube videos, than it could music sites or reddit or anything else. There is no reason to delete the entire discussion. If someone had posted a link to that on a number of wider music forums, as they probably did, nobody would take down the links or nuke the threads.

As the poster said earlier, that's the death of netphoria. Fans aren't even allowed to talk about and give impressions on publically leaked material because Billy is throwing his lawyers around and threatening board hosts? If that is the case fans should be made aware of it and decide if they want to have anything more to do with this band.

Cool As Ice Cream · 03-10-2016, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

As the poster said earlier, that's the death of netphoria. Fans aren't even allowed to talk about and give impressions on publically leaked material because Billy is throwing his lawyers around and threatening board hosts? If that is the case fans should be made aware of it and decide if they want to have anything more to do with this band.

you're discussing it now, aren't you?

VoxUpDoc · 03-10-2016, 12:16 PM

Not the tracks themselves, and how long before this disappears?

Bomb The Moon · 03-10-2016, 12:13 PM

you don't wanna anger the pumpkins camp...

Slurpee · 03-10-2016, 12:26 PM

It does seem like this board will die if we can't even discuss what's out there.

Beta · 03-10-2016, 01:23 PM

so PM link anyone?

Forgotten Child · 03-10-2016, 01:27 PM

I started that thread, I didn't delete it tho.

It was an YouTube video ffs.

toase · 03-11-2016, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

I started that thread, I didn't delete it tho.

It was an YouTube video ffs.

This is your guy
He's name is Fernando
Sue him

Sorry Fernando, it's for the greater good

T&T · 03-11-2016, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toase

This is your guy
He's name is Fernando
Sue him

Sorry Fernando, it's for the greater good

yup
Fernando Delacroix
2124 Winston Ave Louisville, KY 40205-2536
502-459-4392

get him!

03-10-2016, 04:50 AM	#1
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,880	Recent MCIS demo leaks (one and two, the tracer) Unless I'm blind did the thread linking to a recent One and Two Youtube video covered by music news websites, and which contained the quote from the SP FB page get taken down? Did something bad happen in there I missed? Please PM details. On pretty much the only board left on the internet discussing the Smashing Pumpkins, with 300 active users, which contained no direct links to stolen material, threads are being DELETED? under threat of legal action from the band? Then what is the point of even having this forum? Probably my last post as I can barely listen to the old stuff now without thinking about what a tool Corgan is and coming here is like gathering to witness a car crash. If we're gonna be censored as well, forget it.

03-10-2016, 05:00 AM	#2
Beta Pledge Location: Austria Posts: 183	Recent MCIS demo leaks (one and two, the tracer) where is this discussed here? http://www.stereogum.com/1864721/ori...f&utm_campaign cant think that i am the first...

03-10-2016, 07:34 AM	#11
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,880	You really think James and D'arcy were even contacted about this, and it wasn't just a blanket statement from the band management and a way for Billy to distribute responsiblity for the reaction away from himself? Last edited by VoxUpDoc : 03-10-2016 at 08:38 AM.

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03-10-2016, 05:03 AM	#3
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,880	Thread got deleted. I wouldn't expect it to fall under no linked unreleased material rules as it wasnt leaked directly on to here. Why should Netphoria not discuss SP news covered elsewhere on the internet? Hopefully we'll get an answer...

03-10-2016, 05:54 AM	#4
StillBecomingApart I'M FROM ITALY Location: Back the tape up. I need it again! Let it roll! Just as high as the fucker can go! And when it comes to that fantastic note where the rabbit bites its own head off, I want you to THROW THAT FUCKING RADIO INTO THE TUB WITH ME! Posts: 4,357	That's the death of netphoria

03-10-2016, 05:59 AM	#5
StillBecomingApart I'M FROM ITALY Location: Back the tape up. I need it again! Let it roll! Just as high as the fucker can go! And when it comes to that fantastic note where the rabbit bites its own head off, I want you to THROW THAT FUCKING RADIO INTO THE TUB WITH ME! Posts: 4,357	Also, that youtube user deleted all videos...

03-10-2016, 06:27 AM	#6
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,880	I guess the question is whether the thread was taken down by the thread starter (and vid uploader???) for fear of prosecution or by Mr. Pakula for breach of board guidelines or some other reason.

03-10-2016, 11:53 AM	#7
sjpaterra Ownz Posts: 566	why don't people upload this stuff from a VPN or using TOR? That way it's completely anonymous (almost) and harder to trace... i'd leak that shit from brazil, taiwan, vancouver, and brussels

03-10-2016, 06:41 AM	#9
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	i guess nobody involved will say a word about this.

03-10-2016, 07:30 AM	#10
TheAeroplane Demi-God Posts: 388	This is what reunites these fuckers after ignoring and hating on each other after all these years ?

05-26-2020, 11:57 AM	#13
BurtSampson Apocalyptic Poster Location: Billy's Buttcrack Posts: 1,687	I can't find the demo of The Tracer anywhere

03-10-2016, 08:41 AM	#14
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,882	Billy issued that threat all on his own. But I don't doubt that the rest of the band feels the same way.

03-10-2016, 09:23 AM	#16
brandnewfan Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 8	Did anyone hear the X.Y.U. outtake before it was deleted? I just missed it.

03-10-2016, 10:29 AM	#19
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,367	James Iha would not bother prosecuting someone to the full extent of the law because someone shared old studio demos of his with like 100 fans who have nothing better to do And by the way, do we have any idea where these tracks even came from? Like, it seems weird that they were mixed and put onto a CD without any intent of them being released

03-10-2016, 11:11 AM	#21
themadcaplaughs Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,626	-Original 4 -Cash rewards

03-10-2016, 12:00 PM	#22
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,880	Legally there is nothing the band could do to this board, for members linking to public, non-affiliated Youtube videos, than it could music sites or reddit or anything else. There is no reason to delete the entire discussion. If someone had posted a link to that on a number of wider music forums, as they probably did, nobody would take down the links or nuke the threads. As the poster said earlier, that's the death of netphoria. Fans aren't even allowed to talk about and give impressions on publically leaked material because Billy is throwing his lawyers around and threatening board hosts? If that is the case fans should be made aware of it and decide if they want to have anything more to do with this band.

03-10-2016, 12:16 PM	#24
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,880	Not the tracks themselves, and how long before this disappears?

03-10-2016, 12:13 PM	#25
Bomb The Moon Demi-God Posts: 271	you don't wanna anger the pumpkins camp...

03-10-2016, 12:26 PM	#26
Slurpee Minion of Satan Location: breakfast Posts: 6,174	It does seem like this board will die if we can't even discuss what's out there.

03-10-2016, 01:23 PM	#27
Beta Pledge Location: Austria Posts: 183	so PM link anyone?

03-10-2016, 01:27 PM	#28
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 4,876	I started that thread, I didn't delete it tho. It was an YouTube video ffs.