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Old 06-26-2016, 10:41 PM   #61
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I've got nothing to prove

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:42 PM   #62
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everyone feel bad about your art, art is only for famous people you fucking cretins.
you spelled "hobby" wrong. it's not a-r-t. it's h-o-b-b-y.

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:46 PM   #63
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it's a way overly cynical attitude. most people are never going to be among the best at their hobbies out of 7 billion people. that's not at all a reason to not indulge in what you like to do. should we all be miserable because we can't be famous and globally influential? that makes no sense. it's like when trotskilicious flamed me as a pathetic talentless nothing for posting a video of me playing an open mic at a starbucks. meanwhile he tried to learn guitar but refused to accept that you can't go from not playing the instrument to playing like the chick from Joy Formidable in a matter of weeks and gave up, and somehow that was less shameful to him

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:47 PM   #64
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If I posted myself playing metallica would I get to call myself an artist

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:50 PM   #65
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so your argument is trots being bad at guitar?

i see what you're saying, but it just hurts to see so many people putting more thought into playing guitar than actually playing guitar.

i feel like if all of us put more energy into actually doing it, than thinking or posting about, we would all be much better players.

most of this thread is people sticking their thumb up their own butthole and trying to justify themselves

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:51 PM   #66
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its like the fake interview we all wish we could get itt

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:51 PM   #67
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this whole thread is just an excuse for couch-noodlers to wax philosophically about being the rockers/songwriters they won't ever be

giant fap thread

not excluding myself here but you all should be disgusted with yourselves. this is vixnix level shit.
I don't want to be a rocker or a songwriter - I'm 36. But I do get paid to play, on occasion. Not often, but about half a dozen times, this year. When was the last time you were paid to play?

I don't start couch noodler threads because I'm not one. I only usually play or sing at home when I'm practicing for a gig, or supervising my kids practice/rehearsing with my kids.

Definitely don't put more thought into playing that time playing. Which is probably why I get paid and play in public...

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:51 PM   #68
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"so, tell me about your songwriting process"

WELL....

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:53 PM   #69
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I only usually play or sing at home when I'm practicing for a gig,
HOLY SHIT VIXNIX PLAYS GIGS WHERE CAN I BUY TICKETS

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:54 PM   #70
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I don't disagree with you Slunken I just feel like you got something out of my posts that I wasn't trying to put down

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:54 PM   #71
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btw vix i do contract work as well. i don't get paid to play. i get paid to record.

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:55 PM   #72
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record what? you mean you're a recording engineer or something?

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:55 PM   #73
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I don't disagree with you Slunken I just feel like you got something out of my posts that I wasn't trying to put down
for the record this isn't about you, im just trying to rip the guts out of this stupid circle jerk

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:57 PM   #74
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HOLY SHIT VIXNIX PLAYS GIGS WHERE CAN I BUY TICKETS
You can't - I get paid to play piano at funerals and organ at church services. You'd be welcome at church, though. And the choir I sing in, is paid to sing at weddings and church services.

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:57 PM   #75
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I wasn't patting myself on the back. I admitted that I am terrible and lack the perseverance to bring anything to fruition.

I believe this means I am the master of this thread.

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:58 PM   #76
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record what? you mean you're a recording engineer or something?
i record this thing called music. soundtrack work

though on your side it doesn't pay as much as sitting on the side of the road and beating out old standards on a guitar to passers-by on their way to a ball game.

does your church pay you?

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:58 PM   #77
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ITT slunken projects his self-hate on others for no discernible reason

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:59 PM   #78
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Honestly professional musicians for hire are worse to me than couch noodlers I'm just gonna flat out say that I don't care

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:59 PM   #79
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You can't - I get paid to play piano at funerals and organ at church services. You'd be welcome at church, though. And the choir I sing in, is paid to sing at weddings and church services.
so don't fucking call it a gig. you're disrespecting your own faith.

 
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ITT slunken projects his self-hate on others for no discernible reason
so?

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:01 PM   #81
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the Hexadic system

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:01 PM   #82
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Honestly professional musicians for hire are worse to me than couch noodlers I'm just gonna flat out say that I don't care
what initially upset me was everyone talking about their couch-noodling as if it were some tired craft

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:03 PM   #83
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i record this thing called music. soundtrack work

though on your side it doesn't pay as much as sitting on the side of the road and beating out old standards on a guitar to passers-by on their way to a ball game.

does your church pay you?
It's not my church. My church has a dedicated director of music and an organ scholar who are both paid - the DOM is also a university lecturer with two PhDs. So they don't need a shitty organist/pianist like me. I get paid by a church we used to attend, because I'm on a roster of paid organists. I play there about once a month. But I also get asked to play at other places, for services.

It is a gig. In the sense that I need to be there at a certain time, play specific pieces of music as required, and I get paid for it.

 
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the Hexadic system
I listened to a podcast about this recently.

I use dice-rolling (ten-sided) as a mathematical method

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:04 PM   #85
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It's not my church. My church has a dedicated director of music and an organ scholar who are both paid - the DOM is also a university lecturer with two PhDs. So they don't need a shitty organist/pianist like me. I get paid by a church we used to attend, because I'm on a roster of paid organists. I play there about once a month. But I also get asked to play at other places, for services.

It is a gig. In the sense that I need to be there at a certain time, play specific pieces of music as required, and I get paid for it.
if you were an atheist would you still do it?

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:05 PM   #86
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"With King Crimson I did about three or four gigs standing up, and said, "This is hopeless, I just can't play this way."

"I never really listened to guitarists, because they've never really interested me. In fact, I think the guitar is a pretty feeble instrument. Virtually nothing interests me about the guitar.

-Robert Fripp

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:06 PM   #87
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Honestly professional musicians for hire are worse to me than couch noodlers I'm just gonna flat out say that I don't care
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen you type. How is putting in thousands of hours of practice time and paying to an audience for a fee that covers your rent, food and utilities so that you can continue to practice and play for the pleasure of others, make you worse than a couch noodler, exactly?

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:08 PM   #88
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if you were an atheist would you still do it?
I can't answer that question, but there are atheists on the roster, so probably. Organists are most often paid by churches, regardless of their faith, because there isn't much of a market outside of churches, for organ music. The concert roster wouldn't pay enough for any organist to make a living from it, I wouldn't think. Especially in smaller cities.

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:09 PM   #89
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Because I'd rather listen to a thousand shit bandcamp solo guitarists than one professional guitarist

 
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:10 PM   #90
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I'm only asking these questions because i'm getting requests to play "faith and worship" music in local churches, which tbh is right up my alley of playing style

 
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