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Old 03-11-2008, 05:51 PM   #1
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I imagine it would be hard to rock out to music you created (ie. I doubt Billy ever throws Siamese Dream in the stereo when he's feeling happy and sad all at once). But since Jimmy had no involvement with Adore, do you think he ever chills to it, or is he too close to Billy for it to have an effect on him?

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:54 PM   #2
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Interesting, I think he probably appreciates it as a good album however he wont feel so connected to music I would assume.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:59 PM   #3
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i don't think the band spends much time "listening" to their own albums once they are finished with them in the studio

i remember billy mentioning how he listened to SD for the first time in '97 after many years and found it to be a "very emotional album & was very impressed", yet he felt like a different person then the guy who wrote that album and couldn't remember who that person had been to write such an album...

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:20 PM   #4
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I remember an interview with Jimmy, I believe it was around the time the band was breaking up, when he said that he liked it, but it was a hard album to listen to because of his reasons for not being involved and because he could tell Billy was in emotional turmoil.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:46 PM   #5
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do you think ron roesing listens to gish?

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:52 PM   #6
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Every night, in the fetal position, screaming "Why God, Why?!?"

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:55 PM   #7
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Do you think artists ever list themselves in their iPods as 'Me'?

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:32 PM   #8
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i don't think the band spends much time "listening" to their own albums once they are finished with them in the studio

i remember billy mentioning how he listened to SD for the first time in '97 after many years and found it to be a "very emotional album & was very impressed", yet he felt like a different person then the guy who wrote that album and couldn't remember who that person had been to write such an album...


I like the iinfo you replied wiith, but since Jimmy wasn't involved with adore, it puts a special spiin on my questiiion.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:44 PM   #9
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:45 PM   #10
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lol

anyway didn't jimmy say in that zeitgeist interview that "he's always a sucker for the spacey-sounding songs?" based on that i think he'd probably be really into adore.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:49 PM   #11
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i remember billy mentioning how he listened to SD for the first time in '97 after many years and found it to be a "very emotional album & was very impressed", yet he felt like a different person then the guy who wrote that album and couldn't remember who that person had been to write such an album...
i can't picture him listening to that album and him thinking he didn't know who he was when he wrote songs like: disarm, spaceboy, mayonaise, rocket, soma, today

to me this album is everything that is Billy Corgan. so for him to have said that, if he did, is a sad idication or possibly validation to me that he's not in touch with himself or certain parts of his truest nature and truest self. though my faith is strong that he will be restored

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:14 PM   #12
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well, jimmy had to learn how to play adore songs somehow. I'm sure he has listened to it before.

The real question is, do you think the new pumpkins listen to the albums regularly? You think Billy gives them a list of songs to learn then tells em to go to obscured.net?

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:31 PM   #13
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Yeah I imagine Billy has had Jimmy listen to it to learn how to play songs. But I myself am wondering if he would ever listen to it on his own. I wonder if he ever actually desired to listen to it.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:34 PM   #14
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I bet he listened to it when it came out and he was sitting on his ass band-less.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:40 PM   #15
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You think Billy gives them a list of songs to learn then tells em to go to obscured.net?
Yeah right, this is the multiple edition Zeitgeist B0llster we are talking about. He makes them buy the official tab books.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:52 PM   #16
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Yeah right, this is the multiple edition Zeitgeist B0llster we are talking about. He makes them buy the official tab books.
So I take it they haven't found a Gish tab book yet?

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:56 PM   #17
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anyway didn't jimmy say in that zeitgeist interview that "he's always a sucker for the spacey-sounding songs?" based on that i think he'd probably be really into adore.
spacey is more along the lines of "obscured"

adore is clearly electronigoth

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:04 PM   #18
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Adore should have been Corgans first solo record. Its great but it just doesnt feel like the Pumpkins to me. There's no Jimmy and its too similar to the Future Embrace. It doesnt have that Pumpkins sound that I had become so familar with and was once again familiar with on Machina.

 
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:05 PM   #19
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yeah he shouldn't have retread the tired territory of TFE on adore

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:29 AM   #20
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anyway didn't jimmy say in that zeitgeist interview that "he's always a sucker for the spacey-sounding songs?" based on that i think he'd probably be really into adore.
actually, it was that he liked songs with a lot of space in them. he was talking about Pomp. So, no he wasnt talking about stuff like "Spaced" but I think songs that are more patient and deliberate in their arrangement. something like, say, "Tear" or "Dusty and Pistol Pete" (that long ebow interlude)

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:28 AM   #21
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I'm gunna switch my demos in iTunes and on the ol' pod to the heading "me".

I'd say Bill just showed Jimmy the songs and he picked 'em up and threw a bit of the old Jimmy foot on there for good measure.

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:52 AM   #22
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so no one has yet asked, have james and darcy listened to Zeitgeist?? eh??

probably not.

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:36 AM   #23
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IIRC
Jimmy said that when he heard adore, he couldn't help but hear Billy struggling, and that he wished he could have been there to help billy with those moments.

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:37 AM   #24
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I'm gunna switch my demos in iTunes and on the ol' pod to the heading "me".

I'd say Bill just showed Jimmy the songs and he picked 'em up and threw a bit of the old Jimmy foot on there for good measure.
Need a new poll for what would not benefit from the "Jimmy Foot."

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:03 PM   #25
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so no one has yet asked, have james and darcy listened to Zeitgeist?? eh??

probably not.
Didn't James and D'arcy go see one of the residency shows? Could easily be wrong here, I think I read it about one of the residency shows on archive.org

 
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Didn't James and D'arcy go see one of the residency shows? Could easily be wrong here, I think I read it about one of the residency shows on archive.org
fan overheard someone say they saw D'arcy
I also read someone saw D'arcy at the montreal show... on stage....

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:29 PM   #27
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i'd love to hear what either of them have to say about zeitgeist. or zwan. or tfe.

that makes me think of an interview in rolling stone (i think?) from the siamese dream era, where d'arcy says something along the lines of "my mom told me if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all".

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:30 PM   #28
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I'm with the people that think Jimmy probably gave Adore a listen within a week of it being released. It's inevitable and curiosity would have been eating him up. That said he probably wouldn't thought "Man Billy is a hippocrate... this album sounds like the work of a man heroined up and wired on dead mom sadness."

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:44 PM   #29
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That said he probably wouldn't thought "Man Billy is a hippocrate... this album sounds like the work of a man heroined up and wired on dead mom sadness."
I have always wondered what Jimmy thought about Billy's Confessions where he talks about tacking ecstasy and popping pills after firing Jimmy for drug use.

 
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I also read someone saw D'arcy at the montreal show... on stage....
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