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04-30-2018, 03:40 PM | #1501 | |
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04-30-2018, 04:27 PM | #1502 | |
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You're looking for every excuse for Billy Corgan -but not for D'arcy. I've lost every respect for Corgan after they leaked the compromising photo of D'arcy to Mancow Muller and him visiting Muller just two days later after his disgusting "battered rockstar" contest. Corgan could at least have taken the opportunity to say he disliked Muller's action. But instead he completely ignored it, got into his crybaby-victim role, not able to talk about the feud with D'arcy. |
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04-30-2018, 04:48 PM | #1503 | |
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I was 100% on D'arcy's side... until she shared the phone massages. She knows it backfired on her and deactivated her account when people start telling her it looked more like Billy was trying to get her back in the band the best way possible. After that, i've been trying to understand what went wrong between them. Last edited by Forgotten Child : 04-30-2018 at 05:05 PM. |
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04-30-2018, 05:01 PM | #1504 | |
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i don't buy it. |
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04-30-2018, 06:44 PM | #1505 |
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Read my post again. I didnt deny that Corgan and Iha seem to get along now, and I’m even sure he will enjoy the tour and playing the old songs, but if you think finances aren’t the major reason Iha is doing this tour, I have some magic beans for you to buy. As for your other points...
-Yes his wife has a career, but how often has that stopped someone from making a decision to make more money. -Corgan has always gotten the majority of the royalties since he wrote the vast majority of songs. In the past, when people bought records, I’m sure Iha made decent money off royalties from album sales and mechanicals from the songs he wrote and co-wrote, but with streaming and the fact that none of “his songs” get significant radio play, I’m sure he makes a lot less money off Pumpkins royalties than he did even 10 years ago. -Yes, I’m sure he makes fair money off producing and playing with A Perfect Circle, but Indoubt any of that work pays out in a big way; certainly considering he mainly produces independent bands. If you wanna pretend Chamberlin, Corgan, and Iha all are best bros - and his decision to play this tour isn’t motivated in a huge part by money- you are truly naive |
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04-30-2018, 07:38 PM | #1506 | |
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04-30-2018, 08:56 PM | #1507 |
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It did backfire on her. You probably didn't follow her live comments the morning it was posted trying to explain how people misread it (she sounds like Billy Corgan), and no she wasn't replying to haters, most of them were clearly still very supportive of her while trying to say it was probably a misunderstanding between them - she stops replying and deactivates her account straight away.
You can still go to the comment section on those websites tho, don't go to the original one cause it's full of Fat Machines, but check the stereogum or CoS comment sections and you will see that even the average "Billy is an arsehole" person thought he was being reasonable this time. |
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04-30-2018, 08:58 PM | #1508 | |
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04-30-2018, 09:00 PM | #1509 | |
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04-30-2018, 10:37 PM | #1510 |
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OMG guys.
isnt' it SUPER obvious that this is all airplane mode's fault. she's clearly jealous of d'arcy and didn't want billy out on tour with her. Billy's a dog and can't be trusted. james's wife doesn't trust him either, so he's not talking to d'arcy anymore either. the way these dogs treat women is disgusting. |
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04-30-2018, 10:59 PM | #1511 |
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man, rereading those texts again, Billy is just savage. He obviously had no intention of having her back in the band. It's like he invites her back thinking that she won't wanna do a full role, and when she says she'll do it he starts weasel talking and back tracking.
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04-30-2018, 11:02 PM | #1512 |
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"And so you hear it directly from me, I want you to know that you're welcome to partake in the tour however you'd like to. It would mean a lot to the fans to have you back!"
"okay, I wanna play bass" "No, you can't do that" Then Billy rambles on about how there isn't enough time... Well why did he feel the impulse to rush it together like this? Billy's just a brutal dude. |
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04-30-2018, 11:08 PM | #1513 |
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This really could've been a healing comeback for D'arcy. Could've been an inspirational thing and it would've been a really good narrative for the tour. Musician who struggled with substance abuse and who was out of the public eye for 20 years is welcomed back by her band and has a chance to make right again on a victory lap of sorts. People love that kind of shit.
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05-01-2018, 12:45 AM | #1514 | |
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Why should D'arcy get stressed by meeting Billy the first time already in public AND do a performance for the first time again with them without a rehearsal -after 19 years...? Maybe Billy wasn't that stupid to give his buddy the picture directly himself? YES, we don't know that. BUT he still had the nerve to visit him two days later in this situation -demonstrating that there WAS a connection- only for being upset how D'arcy treated him. Absolute narcissistic self pity "crybaby" behaviour… I guess you mean MESSAGES. She shared them because Corgan told her to be a LIAR. There is NO doubt reading them that D’arcy wasn’t invited to the studio recordings. You can be sure, Corgan would have used her shoulder injury as an excuse for it, if it wasn’t documented there too, that he only got aware of it afterwards. I guess YOU would now argue, in your “objective” position: “Why didn’t she come to the studio anyway? She could still sing background vocals, bla bla bla…“ Ignoring, that this was a situation to feel not really wanted and that it was more important for her to cure her injury… Oh YES, you’re a 100% neutral person with bitching that D’arcy deactivated her Facebook account herself, though you're NOT knowing about it! Only doesn’t make sense with her NOT avoiding to discuss with haters on the AN sites publicly. You try to tell your PERSONAL opinions as an objective analysis. |
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05-01-2018, 01:24 AM | #1515 | |
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Can you explain why Billy met with James but didn't meet with Darcy? Or why James didn't meet Darcy either, to work like a middleman? Who has met Darcy for the last 19 years anyway? It's not like people are avoiding her, it's the other way around. It's very simplistic to say they didn't meet cause Billy didn't want her back in the band, even tho he reconnected with her, shared very personal stuff and even worked on the reunion without a proper meeting. About her Facebook account: she wasn't banned, the account wasn't blocked or excluded. It was deactivated and an account can only be deactivated by the owner or someone with access to that account. Was she "hacked" again? And this hacker decided to only deactivate her account instead of deleting it permanently? Yeah, right. |
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05-01-2018, 02:13 AM | #1516 | |
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I told her links, how to reactivate it, IF it was deactivated by mistake. She said she would try them, but obviously didn't get further with it. Not I, you or anybody else NOT being in their surroundings can judge why Billy and James reconnected and James and D’arcy alienated. Don’t bug with your PERSONAL opinion that D’arcy had avoided them. D’arcy, Billy, James and Jimmy should have come together around the gig in Chicago 2016. This is all I had wished for her as a first step back in the public. |
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05-01-2018, 04:32 AM | #1517 |
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are you guys still saying the same shit in this thread?
jesus christ |
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05-01-2018, 05:04 AM | #1518 |
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well, it is a Smashing Pumpkins board in 2018
we could also go back to discussing our favourite songs |
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05-01-2018, 05:56 AM | #1519 |
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anyone in the mood to make a list of something?
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05-01-2018, 06:52 AM | #1520 |
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quick everybody, post your alt tracklist to your fav SP record that nobody else gives a shit about and will forget ever existed even before scrolling it into oblivion
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05-01-2018, 07:51 AM | #1521 |
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Siamese Dream
1. "Autre Temps" ("Another Time") 2. "Là Où Naissent les Couleurs Nouvelles" ("Where New Colours Are Born") 3. "Les Voyages de l'Âme" ("The Journeys of the Soul") 4. "Nous Sommes l'Émeraude" ("We Are the Emerald") 5. "Beings of Light" 6. "Faiseurs de Mondes" ("Makers of Worlds") 7. "Havens" 8. "Summer's Glory" |
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05-01-2018, 08:38 AM | #1522 | |
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05-01-2018, 08:58 AM | #1523 | ||
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This was 2013. The interviewer asks if James still speaks to D'arcy. He hesitantly responds "once in a while." 2016 interview with D'arcy: Quote:
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05-01-2018, 02:36 PM | #1524 | |
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I were Billy and didn’t have anything to do with the photo I’d have been fucking livid with “mancow” , definitely not posting about how he’s my best friend in the whole wide world days later. And if I were “mancow” and someone anonymously sent me that pic I’d have at least asked asked my best friend in the whole world Billy Corgan if he was cool with me posting it...if only because he was putting a reunion together at the time. ..and if I were Billy I’d have told him hell no, delete the photo. B b but I’m a decent human being not Billy Corgan or Mancow |
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05-01-2018, 03:46 PM | #1525 |
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It seems that the only problem is if your an opinion goes "against" Darcy, but we are free to accuse any other member without not even 1 real fact. Right on!
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05-01-2018, 06:07 PM | #1526 |
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it's a fact that billy is a dirty pig and he raped d'arcy a few times.
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05-01-2018, 06:28 PM | #1527 |
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The leaked picture was first seen on a mysterious instagram account that only 5 or 6 people including Airplane Mode followed, and it had other exclusive pictures of BC in the studio that only they would have. Pretty easy to put two and two together.
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05-01-2018, 07:28 PM | #1528 |
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is a picture billy took after he assaulted and raped d'arcy.
RAPIST. just like bill cosby. it's not a coincidence they share the same initials. it's just a matter of time before it all comes out. how many more women need to be raped? How young do you think Chloe was when he started grooming her? |
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05-02-2018, 01:18 AM | #1529 | |
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The guy is a scumbag. *don't sue me Corgan |
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05-02-2018, 01:44 AM | #1530 | |
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Even if Billy had nothing to do with it....: Either Billy was given notice by his friend and did nothing Or his friend didn’t give him notice about it but Billy was totally ok about it. That is FACT. doesn’t sound like a nice guy. Use your brain. |
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