8-9 hour Billy performance on Feb 28th at the tea house - Page 5

juliana · 02-22-2014, 01:36 AM

8 hours of vegan baked goods and everyone will have explosive diarrhea

Trotskilicious · 02-22-2014, 05:38 AM

i just love that he's austin texas anderson high school class of 93

he really may not be lying about being an SP fan, honestly it's probably true why else would he have the guy on. bill is not even C list

pavementtune · 02-22-2014, 03:45 PM

I don't understand why all the comments on this are so negative. They are rebranding Zuzu's, from teahouse to teashop and art studio. Instead of the usual Zuzu's program - a reading or music - it's both, background sound to Hesse while you buy and drink some tea. Every other multi media art student does it, why not Corgan's teahouse?
Or is the weird thing that people with a cultural horizon like Monte buy a plane ticket and expect to sit on their ass for 8 hours?

Either way, if you do something like that, Siddhartha is a really good choice imo.

slunken · 02-22-2014, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pavementtune

Or is the weird thing that people with a cultural horizon like Monte buy a plane ticket and expect to sit on their ass for 8 hours

Like I mentioned before I honestly think most people are expecting "a show"

T&T · 02-22-2014, 06:03 PM

to me it's weird because it's just like an everytown usa student art project.

Araneae · 07:24 PM

I find it kind of ironic that Billy is doing this. It just screams 'hipster' to me, along with that t-shirt line he started. I think it's still strange for some people to believe that Billy cares more about tea and wrestling than SP. Yeah, he says he's working on new material, but you know his priorities have changed when the SP twitter feed is full of tea or wrestling news. It's not like there isn't any SP news to share. We know Adore is done mastering, but they didn't bother to tell the fans anything this time around. At this point I'd love to hear anything at all about the Adore reissue.

Tuscaloosa · 02-22-2014, 07:18 PM

http://i.imgur.com/oKsZEkk.jpg

juliana · 02-22-2014, 08:08 PM

What negativity? The fact that his tee shirts look like iron on transfers and are being sold for $30? Or that madam zuzus labels are made in ms word and printed on avery labels?

I like what billy is doing, but I wouldn't enjoy this in the tiny tea shop with retard sp fans. I also wouldn't want to stay the length of 8 hours.

Also, monte bought a plane tix not to sit his ass down, he bought them to stand in front of billy and mind fuck him.

Araneae · 02-22-2014, 08:51 PM

But there's only "less than 5 in world!" That apparently makes it worth $30. I'm willing to bet money that Billy and co just flipped through some antique material, found some pictures he liked, and ironed them onto some shirts. He should really hire a real/talented artist every now and then.

slunken · 02-22-2014, 09:02 PM

That costs money and we are living in a DIY society

juliana · 02-22-2014, 09:55 PM

You can DIY shit and not make it look like crap.

ESPECIALLY the labeling of stuff. They just have no design sense.
This is a biz that is trying to sell high end tea and said one of their mixes is one step higher than what the queen of england drinks.

Also, chicago is a placed renowned for their design, he could easily get a design student to do it for like a couple hundred. Billy just doesn't understand the dif.

Araneae · 02-22-2014, 10:38 PM

Great skill and craftsmanship deserves to be paid. It's one area I think that businesses should splurge on, especially in this case when it comes to branding. It makes a huge fucking difference.

But Billy is self-admittedly cheap and lately tends to favor hiring friends/gfs over skilled artists. But people will still buy the stuff solely because Billy's promoting it. That's one thing he's not shy of taking advantage of. I'm kind of amazed that people even buy the antiques that Billy sells at his shop. It's like they don't realize that Billy just buys these things from local antique shows and malls and then resells them at exorbitant prices. I guess the montesque fans just cream at the thought of owning something that Billy has touched.

slunken · 02-22-2014, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juliana

You can DIY shit and not make it look like crap.

ESPECIALLY the labeling of stuff. They just have no design sense.
This is a biz that is trying to sell high end tea and said one of their mixes is one step higher than what the queen of england drinks.

Also, chicago is a placed renowned for their design, he could easily get a design student to do it for like a couple hundred. Billy just doesn't understand the dif.

As an out of work designer I agree heavily

reprise85 · 02-23-2014, 12:00 AM

i just looked at the merch. lofuckingl

Starla · 02-23-2014, 12:32 AM

$30 is a little steep for that t shirt.

Starla · 02-23-2014, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuscaloosa

http://i.imgur.com/oKsZEkk.jpg

Billy in 2030...... "hmm think it's time to release metro dvd"

pavementtune · 02-23-2014, 01:06 AM

Why does anybody here give a fuck how shirts of a teashop look.
Yea, they are ugly. So were the last Smashing Pumpkins shirts, no surprise there.

TbK watercolor "artwork" anyone? Reissues design by mister I'mblind Waggener?

juliana · 02-23-2014, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiddlyScuds

Totally just found some copyright-free vintage clip art and ironed them onto some t-shirts. So much for "art", eh?

You'd think someone that started a band in their 20s with little money would have the inclination to pay some talented young artists to do their design work, given that they can now afford to and would want to support these artists.

I guess that is assuming said individual didn't get old, lose touch with their past self, and become just as miserly as the old fogies they used to swear they would never be like.

Exactly! It is infuriating that he doesn't support local arts!

Also, I care because it is my career to care about design and DIY is something I am very interested in.

James did DIY stuff for his album it turned out really cool.

This honestly reeks of a profit based business decision and not an art project. He wants publicity and he wants to gauge fans of SP.

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2014, 01:53 AM

what if bill did a 8 hour solo acoustic show set to the works of ayn rand

slunken · 02-23-2014, 02:36 AM

Solo acoustic show would imply actually writing songs and presenting/performing them.

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2014, 03:02 AM

no no this is entirely avant-garde

it would be him playing just two strings on a guitar and lecturing everyone about the virtue of selfishness and lessons from john galt

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2014, 03:02 AM

fuck it i'm gonna go do that at starbucks until they kick me out see you guys later

D. · 02-23-2014, 04:14 AM

oh goddddd those t-shirts what in the fuck

Shallowed · 02-23-2014, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pavementtune

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Starla · 02-23-2014, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Why does anybody here give a fuck how shirts of a teashop look.
Yea, they are ugly. So were the last Smashing Pumpkins shirts, no surprise there.

TbK watercolor "artwork" anyone? Reissues design by mister I'mblind Waggener?

It's the netphorian way.

Araneae · 02-23-2014, 10:32 AM

Billy throughout the 90s had a nice aesthetic, now not so much. Yelena probably had a big influence in that, though.

You know he's going to start selling tea and those t-shirts at SP shows now.

T&T · 02-23-2014, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Araneae

Billy throughout the 90s had a nice aesthetic, now not so much. Yelena probably had a big influence in that, though.

You know he's going to start selling tea and those t-shirts at SP shows now.

I'll give the credit to chris and james/d'arcy

I like yelena's work, but I think it wasn't for the best isolating billy more from the band. billy really should have let james/d'arcy geta hand in there...

Catherine Wheel · 02-23-2014, 10:37 AM

Has anyone here seen Bernardo Bertolucci's film Little Buddha?

juliana · 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T&T

I'll give the credit to chris and james/d'arcy

I like yelena's work, but I think it wasn't for the best isolating billy more from the band. billy really should have let james/d'arcy geta hand in there...

ugh, you blame yelena as isolating billy from the band? SP was damn lucky to have her around! I don't think the issue was isolation IMO, they just got sick and tired of billy being so needy and crazy.

Also, yelena's aesthetic was from 33 on. You don't think 33 was an amazing video? Also, adore era she even dressed Billy.

Moreover, yelena is a famous fashion photographer, she photographs for vogue etc.
Now billy has a shitty scrapbooker aesthetic and gives all the reissue work to a complete hack.

Funbags · 02-23-2014, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.

oh goddddd those t-shirts what in the fuck

02-22-2014, 07:13 PM	#126
Araneae Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,887	I find it kind of ironic that Billy is doing this. It just screams 'hipster' to me, along with that t-shirt line he started. I think it's still strange for some people to believe that Billy cares more about tea and wrestling than SP. Yeah, he says he's working on new material, but you know his priorities have changed when the SP twitter feed is full of tea or wrestling news. It's not like there isn't any SP news to share. We know Adore is done mastering, but they didn't bother to tell the fans anything this time around. At this point I'd love to hear anything at all about the Adore reissue. Last edited by Araneae : 02-22-2014 at 07:24 PM.

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02-22-2014, 01:36 AM	#121
juliana Apocalyptic Poster Location: Crestfallen News Dumpster Posts: 3,056	8 hours of vegan baked goods and everyone will have explosive diarrhea

02-22-2014, 05:38 AM	#122
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	i just love that he's austin texas anderson high school class of 93 he really may not be lying about being an SP fan, honestly it's probably true why else would he have the guy on. bill is not even C list

02-22-2014, 03:45 PM	#123
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	I don't understand why all the comments on this are so negative. They are rebranding Zuzu's, from teahouse to teashop and art studio. Instead of the usual Zuzu's program - a reading or music - it's both, background sound to Hesse while you buy and drink some tea. Every other multi media art student does it, why not Corgan's teahouse? Or is the weird thing that people with a cultural horizon like Monte buy a plane ticket and expect to sit on their ass for 8 hours? Either way, if you do something like that, Siddhartha is a really good choice imo.

02-22-2014, 06:03 PM	#125
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,675	to me it's weird because it's just like an everytown usa student art project.

02-22-2014, 07:18 PM	#127
Tuscaloosa Demi-God Posts: 251	http://i.imgur.com/oKsZEkk.jpg

02-22-2014, 08:08 PM	#128
juliana Apocalyptic Poster Location: Crestfallen News Dumpster Posts: 3,056	What negativity? The fact that his tee shirts look like iron on transfers and are being sold for $30? Or that madam zuzus labels are made in ms word and printed on avery labels? I like what billy is doing, but I wouldn't enjoy this in the tiny tea shop with retard sp fans. I also wouldn't want to stay the length of 8 hours. Also, monte bought a plane tix not to sit his ass down, he bought them to stand in front of billy and mind fuck him.

02-22-2014, 08:51 PM	#129
Araneae Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,887	But there's only "less than 5 in world!" That apparently makes it worth $30. I'm willing to bet money that Billy and co just flipped through some antique material, found some pictures he liked, and ironed them onto some shirts. He should really hire a real/talented artist every now and then.

02-22-2014, 09:02 PM	#130
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	That costs money and we are living in a DIY society

02-22-2014, 09:55 PM	#131
juliana Apocalyptic Poster Location: Crestfallen News Dumpster Posts: 3,056	You can DIY shit and not make it look like crap. ESPECIALLY the labeling of stuff. They just have no design sense. This is a biz that is trying to sell high end tea and said one of their mixes is one step higher than what the queen of england drinks. Also, chicago is a placed renowned for their design, he could easily get a design student to do it for like a couple hundred. Billy just doesn't understand the dif.

02-22-2014, 10:38 PM	#132
Araneae Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,887	Great skill and craftsmanship deserves to be paid. It's one area I think that businesses should splurge on, especially in this case when it comes to branding. It makes a huge fucking difference. But Billy is self-admittedly cheap and lately tends to favor hiring friends/gfs over skilled artists. But people will still buy the stuff solely because Billy's promoting it. That's one thing he's not shy of taking advantage of. I'm kind of amazed that people even buy the antiques that Billy sells at his shop. It's like they don't realize that Billy just buys these things from local antique shows and malls and then resells them at exorbitant prices. I guess the montesque fans just cream at the thought of owning something that Billy has touched.

02-23-2014, 12:00 AM	#134
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	i just looked at the merch. lofuckingl

02-23-2014, 12:32 AM	#135
Starla ***** Posts: 15,731	$30 is a little steep for that t shirt.

02-23-2014, 01:06 AM	#137
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	Why does anybody here give a fuck how shirts of a teashop look. Yea, they are ugly. So were the last Smashing Pumpkins shirts, no surprise there. TbK watercolor "artwork" anyone? Reissues design by mister I'mblind Waggener?

02-23-2014, 01:53 AM	#139
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	what if bill did a 8 hour solo acoustic show set to the works of ayn rand

02-23-2014, 02:36 AM	#140
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	Solo acoustic show would imply actually writing songs and presenting/performing them.

02-23-2014, 03:02 AM	#141
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	no no this is entirely avant-garde it would be him playing just two strings on a guitar and lecturing everyone about the virtue of selfishness and lessons from john galt

02-23-2014, 03:02 AM	#142
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	fuck it i'm gonna go do that at starbucks until they kick me out see you guys later

02-23-2014, 04:14 AM	#143
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	oh goddddd those t-shirts what in the fuck

02-23-2014, 10:32 AM	#146
Araneae Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,887	Billy throughout the 90s had a nice aesthetic, now not so much. Yelena probably had a big influence in that, though. You know he's going to start selling tea and those t-shirts at SP shows now.

02-23-2014, 10:37 AM	#148
Catherine Wheel Banned Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 6,310	Has anyone here seen Bernardo Bertolucci's film Little Buddha?