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11-15-2015, 09:34 PM | #61 |
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11-15-2015, 09:34 PM | #62 |
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Axl defended this with the good ol' "not all blacks are n******, just the lousy ones, it's just like white trash" defense.
I dunno what he's like now but he was a real piece of shit back in the day. He's said homophobic things many times in public. |
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11-15-2015, 10:24 PM | #63 |
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actually slash wasn't so sure about it
Before the release of Lies the other members of the band tried in vain to make Rose drop the track from the record. Fellow GN'R member, Slash, whose mother is black, noted that he did not condone the song but did not condemn his bandmate, commenting in a 1991 interview with Rolling Stone: "When Axl first came up with the song and really wanted to do it, I said I didn't think it was very cool... I don't regret doing 'One in a Million,' I just regret what we've been through because of it and the way people have perceived our personal feelings." |
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11-16-2015, 12:04 PM | #64 |
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then why not just say the song is from someone else's point of view instead of defending how it is fine to say the n word because only some black people are n words
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11-16-2015, 01:39 PM | #65 |
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eithier way, defending the whole "cavalier use of the word 'nigger' in his youth" thing might work for like, justin bieber making a joke at 9 years old or whatever, but for a dude in his 20s on his second major label lp, i think he'd have a bit more perspective by that point
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11-16-2015, 01:44 PM | #66 | |
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11-16-2015, 10:16 PM | #67 | |
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11-16-2015, 10:53 PM | #68 |
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lol no
the reality is Axl is just dumb |
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11-16-2015, 10:53 PM | #69 |
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look I'm not saying that using a racial epithet is like the worst action of racial intolerance one can commit...
but excuses like it was a different time or he didn't mean it are such bullshit. We're talking about the 1990s not the 1890s. Yeah, people's ideas about race relations were different then, but the n word was already a big no no and had been for a long fucking time. Not every white person went around dropping the n word because they didn't know any better or something, and this guy was already a grown ass man. |
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11-16-2015, 11:03 PM | #71 |
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sounds like a real sensitive, articulate guy with a lot of meaningful things to say about minorities. how could I have ever doubted that he would only attack niggers, faggots, and immigrants with the best possible intentions?
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11-16-2015, 11:04 PM | #72 |
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hahaha
god damn what a piece of shit |
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11-16-2015, 11:06 PM | #73 |
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my favorite part is like he tries to explain the immigrants thing and then casually drops "faggot" with no explanation
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11-16-2015, 11:25 PM | #74 |
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in part of the interview I didn't paste, he defends himself by citing John Lennon's Woman Is the Nigger of the World, which is a political song about the ubiquitous oppression of women across all cultures. Even in a case like this, I'm not fond of the use of the word, but it makes sense in a non-hateful way. Or in XYU, Billy uses the word faggot, which again I'm not crazy about, but it's done in an ambiguous, artful way and is clearly not making the statement "I hate fags"
but One in a Million the lyrics are literally like I can't stand all these niggers and fags and foreigners also I don't defend Billy Corgan for all the times he has casually used fag, or the transphobic shit he has said. I'm not saying it makes him evil. everyone has said bad things and we all know people who continue to say bad shit like this even though they appear to be pretty decent people overall. but there's no need to defend them. that's just a veiled attempt to protect the ego of the privileged IMO. Last edited by redbreegull : 11-16-2015 at 11:30 PM. |
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11-16-2015, 11:27 PM | #75 |
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It isn't that the words are a HUGE deal it's just obvious that Axl is an idiot and if you need evidence well here read these lyrics
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11-16-2015, 11:37 PM | #76 |
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I just hate that this band is still relevant to anyone in 2015, this should be something people are in retrospect ashamed of having liked
Plus this is a fuzzy thread |
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11-16-2015, 11:46 PM | #77 |
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the only thing gnr fans have to be ashamed of is how abjectly bad this band is
those lyrics (and all the other brainless and prejudiced shit he has uttered) reflect only on axl rose as being a fucking dickbag |
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11-16-2015, 11:52 PM | #78 |
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no one really gives a shit that you or anyone else likes this band, it was just a joke.
the part about axl being terrible is not a joke though, he sucks as a human |
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11-17-2015, 12:11 AM | #79 |
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so this totally has nothing to do with the other times you have tried to trivialize racist shit, got it.
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11-17-2015, 12:19 AM | #80 |
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come on man purposely misinterpreting what I said when I specifically wrote that post so you couldn't twist it
game is weak. lie down before you hurt yourself. |
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11-17-2015, 01:40 AM | #81 |
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some of us are only just now seeing those lyrics, it's not like they're the words to sweet child of mine or anything which everyone from 1988 & onward have virtually been brought up on
i don't think anyone should really be judging axl rose of the here & now on that, given those lyrics are literally older than me, just look to the past half-decade or what have you! |
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11-17-2015, 01:42 AM | #82 |
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Wow axl damn, didn't know he was such a knucklehead. I've always been interested in slash's riffs but couldn't get into gnr b/c axl always reminded me of this glue sniffing fart knocking punk ass on our school bus and the serpentine sidewinder shit made me scoff
Glad I got to read axl's rape story tho and listen to him shred jungles on acoustic. Thread delivers |
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11-17-2015, 01:50 AM | #83 | |
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11-17-2015, 10:13 AM | #84 |
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11-17-2015, 10:18 AM | #85 |
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Slash while a good guitarist wouldn't even crack into a serious top 50 list of great American guitarists
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11-17-2015, 12:09 PM | #86 |
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I probably couldn't even name 50 guitarists that aren't frontmen tbh I'm just kidding at this point
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11-17-2015, 12:21 PM | #87 |
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Well the "Guitar Hero" thing is to the detriment of the music usually, you want things to all fit together as a cohesive whole not for everything to be the backdrop for one instrument
At least imo |
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11-17-2015, 12:21 PM | #88 |
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if he ever watched himself in the WTTJ video, it's easy to understand why a gay might have tried something on him. Not exactly the most masculine looking guy there..... Probably why he stopped teasing his hair....well that and the 90's happened. He was a good looking guy, had this almost androgynous look when he was real young. too bad he was also such a piece of shit. But i mean the way he dressed you could tell, it's not like anyone has ever doubted a guy wearing star spangled shorts and a bandanna was NOT a dumb piece of shit.
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11-17-2015, 12:38 PM | #89 |
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listened to this again because of thread
novaselic calls out the one in a million thing at around the :45 mark somehow never caught that before lolz |
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11-17-2015, 04:17 PM | #90 |
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lol the idea of Slash being in a list of top 50 american guitarists is laughable. don't get me wrong, I respect his skill, but there are too many important guitarists in the world for there to be room for someone like slash. His style is totally derivative and rehashed. He is technically quite proficient, but there are a million regular dudes out there playing in bars and shit who are as good as he is. The only way he makes the list is if it is a list of top 50 american guitarists who play self-indulgent lead for bluesy hard rock bands in the 1980s.
fit him right between zakk wylde and the guy from white snake |
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