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Old 02-17-2019, 06:50 PM   #61
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Definitely. My understanding is that the magnitude of her financial reward is much larger than his, but I could well be wrong.

In my mind thatís part of what makes her a good politician. The heart feeds itself first, guise.

 
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:44 PM   #62
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I think that’s the thing about Hillary Clinton. She’s a good politician. Some people think good politicians are the best people to elect to the legislature. Some people think they are the worst people to elect to a legislature. I guess it depends on your own boundary for where pragmatism turns into soul selling
that'd be all well and good but she lost to Donald Trump

 
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:48 PM   #63
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Still waiting for the amendment king examples btw.
here's 90 that passed on a spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...nkM/edit#gid=0

just so you know I didn't make the term up or something

roll call amendment king to be fair

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-king-1995-2/

nothing as sexy as the Consumer Financial Protection Agency I suppose, but kinda puts into perspective this idea that the former political scientist is just a grand-stander

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Old 02-17-2019, 09:59 PM   #64
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What are you even talking about. The bankruptcy legislation that passed when Hillary Clinton didn’t hold elected office?
yes...well no the first time around she actually convinced Bill to Veto it

then when she became a senator herself...

it's Warren's criticism "the impact of money" I'm asking if you think it's fair


 
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Old 02-17-2019, 10:59 PM   #65
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This primary could be a real shitshow

 
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:28 AM   #66
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here's 90 that passed on a spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...nkM/edit#gid=0

just so you know I didn't make the term up or something

roll call amendment king to be fair

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-king-1995-2/

nothing as sexy as the Consumer Financial Protection Agency I suppose, but kinda puts into perspective this idea that the former political scientist is just a grand-stander
That link sort of seems to undermine your point a little?

And I just donít want to talk about Clinton anymore. If we relitigate 2016 during this process we will all die.

I think we need a constitutional amendment to undo citizens united. Wonít happen any time soon. But I donít think we disagree on this issue.

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:30 AM   #67
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I think Kamala Harris is a good candidate

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:38 AM   #68
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Tulsi Gabbard's comments on torture and her previous homophobia makes her really difficult to support

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:00 AM   #69
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oh Bernie is running now

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:09 AM   #70
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Tulsi Gabbard's comments on torture and her previous homophobia makes her really difficult to support
Among other things

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:15 AM   #71
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What, roughly, is a typical number of Democrat candidates?

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:27 PM   #72
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Good question, here's 2016 and 2020. Seems to be around a dozen.

Edit: Wikipedia has a button near the upper right hand corner that goes all the way back to 1912. Not as many folks running for the nomination back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_D...tial_primaries

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Old 02-19-2019, 12:59 PM   #73
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why the fuck is bernie running again

he's like 90. i was a bernie bro first go around, but it's over. ffs

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:02 PM   #74
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the primary what

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:31 PM   #75
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Kamala "Prison Slave Labour is a-okay" Harris

A true progressive

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:57 PM   #76
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Kamala "Prison Slave Labour is a-okay" Harris

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Sigh. Can we not

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkpr...68fd447a4/amp/

If you think this is disqualifying then great but I donít want everything reduced to a sound bite about how everyone but Bernie is impure. Especially when Bernieís statements accompanying his rollout seem pretty racist and sexist and tone deaf.

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:08 PM   #77
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Ber-nie! Ber-nie! Ber-nie!!!

FEEL THE BERN!!!

FEEL THE BERN!!!!!!!!

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:44 PM   #78
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ironically, "good politicians" aren't fit leaders.

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:09 PM   #79
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Especially when Bernieís statements accompanying his rollout seem pretty racist and sexist and tone deaf.
I don't get that vibe at all

I sort of understood it in 2016 with the BLM fiasco

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:11 PM   #80
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why the fuck is bernie running again

he's like 90. i was a bernie bro first go around, but it's over. ffs
he's a whopping 2 years older than Trump

and doesnt eat fast food 2 meals a day

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:30 PM   #81
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hashtag Bernie would have won

 
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:16 PM   #82
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Are there any candidates that are good or great and excellent and very loud, maybe the best and loudest ever of all time? Any where people are saying, many people are talking about how creative they are with the insults and diminutive nicknames? Do the men have big hands/penises and how are the thighmeats of the ladies? Lookin for a candidate with larger than life nigh cartoonish antics that will entertain me nonstop with a sort of feverdream sensation of “this can’t really be happening right” like the dreams i have most nights of careening off the freeway at top speed toward the tops of the trees waiting to catch me in the comforting silent gloom of the gulch below

 
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:37 AM   #83
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he's a whopping 2 years older than Trump

and doesnt eat fast food 2 meals a day
Exactly. Havenít we had enough of elderly dementia-riddled white dudes

 
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:40 AM   #84
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Sigh. Can we not

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkpr...68fd447a4/amp/

If you think this is disqualifying then great but I donít want everything reduced to a sound bite about how everyone but Bernie is impure. Especially when Bernieís statements accompanying his rollout seem pretty racist and sexist and tone deaf.
I don't really think it would be "disqualifying," I'd literally support any Democratic nominee against any Republican nominee in any situation short of realignment.

Also, yeah, looks like I was wrong about Harris making those comments, and, according to her, she was unaware the Attorney General's office was arguing for It's continuation in court.

I don't think Sanders, or anyone, is pure. I think everyone is worthy of criticism and, regardless of who wins, should be held accountable so that people know what they are dealing with. You can support and even vote for somebody without overlooking their flaws.

 
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:20 PM   #85
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Jesus is pure.

Boris is pure.

Chris Johnson is pure.






Check yourself.

 
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:45 PM   #86
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Exactly. Haven’t we had enough of elderly dementia-riddled white dudes
"old and white, male" is not the best reason to overlook a very strong candidate imo

it'd be the first Jewish president how about that

plus wtf he was still old as dirt when you were a self-proclaimed Bernie Bro

 
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"old and white, male" is not the best reason to overlook a very strong candidate imo

it'd be the first Jewish president how about that

plus wtf he was still old as dirt when you were a self-proclaimed Bernie Bro
I was idealistic before Trump

 
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:02 PM   #88
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I became an anarchist

 
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:09 PM   #89
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bottom line is one of these folks is gonna be the nominee, and whoever it is is going to have some baggage and not be ideologically pure enough for whatever segment of the electorate

however anyone who does not cast a vote for this person, regardless of who it winds up being, is an abject moral failure, a cognitively stunted troglodyte, and should be drug out into the street at the crack of dawn and shot

 
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:12 PM   #90
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Hillary was meant to hack all those voting machines and win before immediately succumbing to degenerative illness. What happened?

 
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