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Old 06-07-2014, 12:08 AM   #31
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No America would fuck Australia up in that sport. I only saw white guys out there


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Old 06-07-2014, 12:14 AM   #32
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There's a reasonable contingent of indigenous/islander players:



there's also one sudanese dude who absolutely rips up

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:15 AM   #33
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But yeah I doubt it would take long for the US to get on top.

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:15 AM   #34
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honestly your crazy sport looks pretty cool

and no, the us would never be good at this sport all the athletes we'd use for it are playing our version of football already. same with rugby and to some extent soccer too

basically most of america's best athletes under 6-5 are playing american football

our best athletes 6-6 and taller are usually playing basketball

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:19 AM   #35
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do you remember darren bennett, perchance?

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:19 AM   #36
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It's not really suited to huge beefcake guys like you get in gridiron though, you need something closer to a basketballer physique cause there's a big emphasis on speed and height. So your point stands I guess.

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:20 AM   #37
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not all guys are beefcake, honestly from what i see there's several positions that would translate well to that sport, primarily wide reciever

 
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of course only two guys on an american football team know how to kick

and one of them only does spot kicks

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:21 AM   #39
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do you remember darren bennett, perchance?
I don't remember him but he played for East Fremantle at state level which was my neighbourhood growing up! Looks like he had a reasonable run though looking at his wiki page.

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:24 AM   #40
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he was an awesome punter in the american game but i dunno if you have the patience to understand what the hell a punter is

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:25 AM   #41
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If the USA took the sport seriously they would dominate I think.

But otherwise yeah nobody good would be playing it.
I actually would love to watch a sport like that because there's no goalie. I don't like Soccer or Hockey because it's boring watching shots just get rejected 90% of the time

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:26 AM   #42
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I have watched 2 or 3 games of american football and quite enjoyed it. I find it a little slow though (as i find most rugby-style games) but yeah the punter is the bloke who kicks from a set shot right? like sometimes something or other happens and they kick it through for some points instead of going for a touchdown.

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:27 AM   #43
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soccer is incredible once you understand its nuance and take joy out of the excitment of the potential or anticipation of a goal. i think primarily americans get bored with the sport is because they don't understand the build up or when the teams are on the attack so they aren't cued to be excited

hockey is pretty stupid to me, it seems really haphazard and completely without tactics

 
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The NFL must bore the shit out of people who aren't from The USA.
It's like watching Chess compared to these other sports.

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:29 AM   #45
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I have watched 2 or 3 games of american football and quite enjoyed it. I find it a little slow though (as i find most rugby-style games) but yeah the punter is the bloke who kicks from a set shot right? like sometimes something or other happens and they kick it through for some points instead of going for a touchdown.
basically the offense has four chances to get the ball ten yards and usually if they try three times and fail, then they turn to the punter which basically kicks the ball to the other team but ideally far enough downfield to make it tactically safer than turning the ball over on the spot after fourth down

bennett actually started a minor trend called the "rugby kick" whereupon they figured out that they could really kick a ball pretty hard down field the AFL style and get it out of bounds avoiding a return...since it's not standard practice they don't use it that much and you see it more in college

bennett's real interesting to me because he learned to kick two different ways basically and was spectacularly good at his late career adoption of the American football punt style

and yeah american football is pretty slow isn't it?

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:30 AM   #46
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Also Baseball....

Why do Americans love such slow, complex sports?

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:36 AM   #47
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Yeah I much prefer a run-on, non-stop game. In AFL (I think like in soccer too but idfk) they keep the game clock running during throw-ins/stoppages etc and then tack all the extra time that accrues on the end of the last quarter of the game to heighten the suspense, like the last quarter clock runs up and then the players have no idea how much longer they've got before the final siren. I like that. No time-outs either, they have in-game interchange systems so they won't even stop play for an injury unless it's ultra serious.

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:37 AM   #48
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yes that timekeeping is from soccer

goals in extra time are just incredible, one of the great moments in sport

 
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and baseball is not nearly as complex as they pretend it is

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:40 AM   #50
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All this is really fucking ironic considering what i titled this thread. WHY DID I EVEN BOTHER?


I think im gonna start discussing my shitting habits, that.s gotta put a nail in this thread.

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:40 AM   #51
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What I like about American Football is ot's like this long term tactical tug of war. Even if on a drive you don't make it to the endzone the progress you made matters a lot.

While in other sports it's like every drive is a self contained all or nothing affair

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:41 AM   #52
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that's not true of soccer, prolonged pressure and attacking ultimately results in a goal. even if from an uninformed perspective it looks like "all or nothing"

i dunno what other sports have "drives"

 
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I do enjoy that about it, it seems like a deeply tactical game where small things you do will have ramifications later on, where AFL is much like NBA in that its just a play in one direction and then a play in the other direction more or less.

 
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In soccer do they put much statistical emphasis on time spent in the forward half?

 
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:43 AM   #55
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Baseball is the weirdest shit ever.
Like who came up with this sport where you spend so much time standing in the same spot.

 
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more like the forward third.

 
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Baseball is the weirdest shit ever.
Like who came up with this sport where you spend so much time standing in the same spot.
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And hitting a round ball with a round bat it's again really strange and difficult

 
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In soccer do they put much statistical emphasis on time spent in the forward half?
absolutely, like JB said it's more about the "final third" but yeah all three parts of the pitch are very important. maintaining possession in the middle third is real important because that's where most of the action takes place, and keeping the other team out of your third is obviously important

soccer's tactical depth is simply incredible, to be honest

 
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And hitting a round ball with a round bat it's again really strange and difficult
well it's derived from cricket which manages to be the only sport more boring than baseball

 
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