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05-09-2018, 07:57 AM | #1 |
Ownz
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Is thinking MCIS > SD only a late-teen phase?
I'm in my mid 20s and I still think its marginally better. Especially when paired with TAFH. Of course SD is still the ultimate candy-fuzz experience.
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05-09-2018, 08:10 AM | #2 |
Ownz
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Needing to pick a definitive favorite or label something definitively better than something else is a late-teen phase in general.
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05-09-2018, 10:09 AM | #3 |
Pledge
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Mellon Collie is a much better album.
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05-09-2018, 12:40 PM | #4 |
Demi-God
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MCIS >>> SD
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05-09-2018, 03:27 PM | #5 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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I think they are honestly pretty close and it kind of depends what values are most important to you. SD is one of the most "perfect" albums I can think of. MCIS is far from perfect but it's bolder and pushes the band to its extremes
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05-09-2018, 03:28 PM | #6 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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and Bill hit his songwriting maturity peak with Adore
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05-09-2018, 06:40 PM | #7 |
dumb
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MCIS has better individual songs, but SD is a better, more listenable album overall
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05-09-2018, 07:52 PM | #8 |
Socialphobic
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SD is more refined, but if I was forced to pick one for a desert island I'd go with the extremes from MCIS
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05-09-2018, 07:52 PM | #9 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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MCIS is still my favorite, but now I find it really hard to tell a friend they have to listen to it. I wouldn't change it because the album feels like a journey, but some of the heavier songs in particular are really cringeworthy unless you are able to contextualize them. As much as I appreciate the songs, it's really hard to go from Jellybelly to BWBW so early in the album.
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05-10-2018, 06:27 AM | #10 |
Ownz
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I think I was more reflecting openly on the fact that I've heard a lot of people say MCIS is only a "phase-album", filled with particular teen angst and such.
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05-10-2018, 06:28 AM | #11 |
Socialphobic
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no one ever said that.
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05-10-2018, 06:31 AM | #12 |
Ownz
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05-10-2018, 06:36 AM | #13 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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Akuma No Uta > MCIS
Flood > SD |
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05-10-2018, 08:25 AM | #14 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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I prefer SD but I think it's locked into the world of 1993 - MTV, grunge, alternative rock.
MCIS has transcended it's era more - 1979 or Tonight Tonight could be played now on the radio and not necessarily evoke an era. |
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05-10-2018, 02:03 PM | #15 |
Dute of Seven Y's
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05-10-2018, 02:06 PM | #16 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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Siamese Dream is a far superior album, it’s not even really a discussion. It’s more coherent, tight, and shit, even has more of a concept than MCIS.
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05-10-2018, 02:24 PM | #17 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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ur dad is tight
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05-10-2018, 03:05 PM | #18 |
real estate cowboy
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They both ain't got shit on Oceania
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05-10-2018, 03:14 PM | #19 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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lol wat a jokester
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05-10-2018, 06:10 PM | #20 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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I like Oceania.
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05-10-2018, 06:12 PM | #21 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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05-10-2018, 07:58 PM | #22 |
Virgo
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gish when i'm drunk, sd when i'm happy, mcis when i'm confused, adore when i'm sad. machina is the reset button for when i feel like a god.
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05-10-2018, 08:52 PM | #23 |
Minion of Satan
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people forget that quiet sweet sweet and spaceboy are kind of bland and boring.
The more metal side of MCIS has really had me intrigued lately. There's some truly badass riffle all over that record. But seriously the songs after XYU are kind of an EP on it's own and that's what makes MCIS special.. it's like a collection of mini albums.. better presented via the triple vinyl IMO |
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05-10-2018, 10:22 PM | #24 |
dumb
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Yeah I have it in that sequencing in iTunes. Having Infinite Sadness on the end is super cool; I read somewhere that it's meant to be like the music after a play when everyone comes out and bows
I love the metal stuff live when it's sped up a ton and Billy's screaming demonically. Sounds really bland on the record in comparison |
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05-10-2018, 11:00 PM | #25 |
Minion of Satan
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funny you say that.. I've never read that but have always got that vibe from that song and where it's placed on the record.
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05-11-2018, 03:51 AM | #26 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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riffle?
more like riffage |
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05-11-2018, 05:03 AM | #27 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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My kinda "gut feeling" is that SD is a 10/10 album and MCIS is a bloated teen angst bullshit record. That's the narrative.... but in reality I think it's the opposite.
MCIS has BWBW, which really is a terrible terrible song that sounds good to teenagers. Everything else on it is good to excellent. It's a real Real album, a lotta divorce stuff and all that. SD has Today and Disarm which I'd happily never hear again. The production, which I used to love, sounds painfully 90s. |
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05-11-2018, 06:21 AM | #28 | |
Ownz
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Quote:
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05-11-2018, 06:44 AM | #29 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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05-11-2018, 07:37 AM | #30 |
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