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Old 07-30-2017, 03:16 PM   #1
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Exclamation Dead fucking Cross

New Supergroup between Mike Patton (Faith no More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, etc.), Dave Lombardo (Slayer drummer)

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Old 07-30-2017, 03:19 PM   #2
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/fe...new-lp-w480502

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 06:19 PM   #3
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David fucking Cross

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Old 07-30-2017, 06:26 PM   #4
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now this is thrash

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:00 PM   #5
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lol mike patton and lol frank zappa

such fucking garbage music

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:03 PM   #6
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As if being able to jump from genre to genre is a sign of intelligence or jazz instead of just overplaying for the sake of overplaying.

I don't actively hate a lot of things but I hate this garbage to my core. This is shit.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:15 PM   #7
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"forced virtuosity"

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:16 PM   #8
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ok

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:22 PM   #9
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i know

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Old 07-30-2017, 07:23 PM   #10
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i know you'd prefer some octogenarian bleating out 12 bar blues over a slide guitar tuned to DGDGBD (and that's ok) but this is clearly not that. if you don't see the artistry in this then, i guess it's not for you?

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:25 PM   #11
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i know

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Old 07-30-2017, 07:35 PM   #12
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Everyone is allowed to like what they like.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:35 PM   #13
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No matter how horrifyingly awful it is.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:47 PM   #14
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everything is derivative

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:09 PM   #15
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The issue is not so much it not appealing to you, but you trying to make the case that it's objectively bad, rather than just not your cup of tea. Like in the other thread I was saying I don't "get" King Krule, but like I can see how other people do and I don't begrudge them for digging him.

We might do this kind of thing for artists that are completely devoid of merit, but even those are pretty hard to universally agree upon. (Umm Toby Kieith? Black Eyed Peas?)

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:10 PM   #16
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I mean do you like any classic hardcore at all? Like D-beat stuff? Do you like thrash metal?

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:10 PM   #17
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everything is derivative


That's a nice way to put it.

Not looking to pick a fight and should really get out of this thread. It's just not for me. Plain as that. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

This is part of my therapy.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:12 PM   #18
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oh just saw t-lions posts

zappa and primus and mike patton are objectively bad.

fight me.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:13 PM   #19
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king krule i could take or leave. i wouldn't go to bat for him.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:16 PM   #20
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this pre-emptively reminds me of those "oh man you've gotta respect the musicianship!" arguments.

like i'm supposed to think that over-playing warrants a gold medal or something because the musicians are playing for the sake of playing.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:16 PM   #21
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i don't want to argue about this but i am open to a discussion - no matter how shitty i'm being right now.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:23 PM   #22
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:25 PM   #23
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Having second thoughts about Primus right now...

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:27 PM   #24
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You really think there's "over-playing" happening on Dead Cross?

 
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You really think there's "over-playing" happening on Dead Cross?
yes. once you get into it, it sounds like every other patton project since the 90s: schizophrenic and musically all over the place. genre switching, etc. it's just way too dang busy.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:35 PM   #26
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my favorite(?) part about frank zappa was that some followers compared him to mozart but then he wrote songs about farts.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:38 PM   #27
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i feel bad for being the heel here because this is a small community, but there isn't much music that I actively rally against.

Patton/Zappa/Etc really touches a sore spot for me. I'm sorry everyone.

I repeat, I'm sorry everyone.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:39 PM   #28
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yes. once you get into it, it sounds like every other patton project since the 90s: schizophrenic and musically all over the place. genre switching, etc. it's just way too dang busy.
genre-switching? I'd argue this album is pretty pure hardcore and thrash with a couple progressive flourishes and some artistic vocal production

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:42 PM   #29
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I'm clearly working through things. Don't mind me.

 
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:48 PM   #30
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