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Old 04-26-2012, 11:42 AM   #1
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A few tidbits regarding the Machina reissue.

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Alright. Machina II is a brilliant album, have you ever thought about releasing it properly, maybe when you re-issue the others?

Yes. Our sell-out move, for Machina, is we’re going to remix the whole record and put it in its official sequence the way I’d hoped for in the beginning. I wrote it as a rock opera double album type of thing, so we’re going to remix the whole thing. I’ve already talked to Flood, and he’s been indicating he wants to be involved with that part of the process, and then we’ll finally finish the album, the way it was meant to be. How was that? Did that pass the Pitchfork meter of integrity? Me reaching into my own pockets to remix my own records so I can convince kids who didn’t like them the first time the first time to buy them again?

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:10 PM   #2
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Well at least his cynicism indicates some sense of awareness.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:19 PM   #3
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:25 PM   #4
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sounds intriguing
i've always wondered if machina's unlikable sound resulted from bad recording or bad mixing
guess we'll find out

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:27 PM   #5
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Good interview. Especially at the end. I think he's right about having the last laugh. 20 years down the road, MCIS will be the next Dark Side of the Moon, and the pumpkins will have a huge diverse library of songs.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:45 PM   #6
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You said in a blog that you’re at a good place in your life.Is it possible to make relevant rock and roll while being happy and at peace?
I haven’t proven that point yet. The answer is ‘I don’t know’, I’ve made some of my best music when I’ve been fucking miserable.



least he knows his shit sucks

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:47 PM   #7
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:55 PM   #8
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sounds intriguing
i've always wondered if machina's unlikable sound resulted from bad recording or bad mixing
guess we'll find out
I think it's some of both. It will depend on how radically different the mix is. the actual mix on Machina is so horrible that it's hard to imagine it getting any worse.




Since IMO MCIS is perfect the way it is, and Adore is already my favorite album, all I really want out of the rest of the reissues is a completed Machina double album.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:03 PM   #9
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Machina is better than MCIS and Adore

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:15 PM   #10
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Machina is better than MCIS and Adore
this is stupid

and i really like machina

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:20 PM   #11
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even if the remixing sucks we'll at least know the intended tracklist though i'm sure some changes will have been made to that from then to now but still...

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:21 PM   #12
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can always piece it together from the old source material

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:49 PM   #13
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:11 PM   #14
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i don't think a remastering will change that most of these songs are wack.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:54 PM   #15
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Yeah... unless there are different versions. The acoustic demos for most of the songs were better than the album versions. Mastering was still one of the biggest problems with Machina, though

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:50 PM   #16
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Mastering was still one of the biggest problems with Machina, though
Yes indeed. It only has a dynamic range of DR7.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:56 PM   #17
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This is the only re-issue I might buy. If the album benefits even half as much as Pearl Jam's "Ten" did from the remix I will be very, very happy. Also, it would be great to listen to the Machina II tracks in good quality. And if they add the Metro Show to the box, this would be a wonderful package.

Don't screw this up, Billy.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:00 PM   #18
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my prediction is the MII songs will be remixed to sound hi-fi and the MI songs will sound exactly the same

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:22 PM   #19
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i don't think a remastering will change that most of these songs are wack.
He is going to re-mix these songs not remaster them. Much different. The whole song could change. Different tracks can be removed or added, vocals tracks can sound much different in a re mix.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 07:31 PM   #20
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r u a sound engineer?

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:00 PM   #21
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can u post a bigger pic of that chick under your name plz

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:08 PM   #22
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can u post a bigger pic of that chick under your name plz
see starla's thread on gen board

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:52 PM   #23
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"Is there anything left unturned?

It’s pretty honest. The only catch in it is that everybody’s under pseudonyms. I don’t name names. I mean some people obviously there’s no way to not figure out who it is. But there’s a lot of people that have played an important role in my life who I just don’t name."

I'm waiting for the thread that dissects all of the characters.

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:13 PM   #24
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D'arcy = Marcy
Jimmy = Phil
James = Mr. Chang

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:14 PM   #25
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:23 PM   #26
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How was that? Did that pass the Pitchfork meter of integrity?
lol he's one of those

 
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:27 PM   #27
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yea he seemed pretty peeved about the sell-out question and it affected his answer to the next question which was a pretty good one.

i took his answer with a grain of salt so i'm not holding my hopes high on some flood remix super concept album

 
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:54 AM   #28
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Why can't Billy not be a dick? The question he was asked wasn't all that stupid.

Refreshing to see him finally admit that he made his best music being depressed. His happy rainbow shit was fucking annoying.

 
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:07 AM   #29
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no it was pretty fucking stupid

 
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:30 AM   #30
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oh man i can't wait for the new sequence, the mystery will all make sense now opcorn:

 
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