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09-29-2015, 09:28 AM | #31 |
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09-29-2015, 01:29 PM | #32 |
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I've been living in Ireland for the last 3 years or so, I am mesmerized that lots of people here have no idea of who Glen Hansard is...
BTW, i actually like Angus & Julia Stone too And them too |
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09-29-2015, 02:42 PM | #33 | |
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09-29-2015, 02:55 PM | #34 |
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sorry but i can't get into music made by females unless i want to fuck them.
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09-29-2015, 04:03 PM | #35 |
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same here, its always sad and dumb because whatever gauzy historiography you created has zero connection to reality. from my friends who are pretending theyre in The Band cierca 1971 or the guy who thinks the 50s were the golden bestest time of all ever to fuzzyroes who has created a grungetarded rut for himself. its all sad, join the NOW its yours.
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09-29-2015, 04:47 PM | #36 |
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oh yeah and most importantly its the antithesis of punk fucking rock
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09-29-2015, 04:55 PM | #37 |
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everything belongs to everyone
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09-29-2015, 05:12 PM | #38 |
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hisrory does not, dude
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09-29-2015, 05:14 PM | #39 |
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would you say white people doing rain dancing is ok? everything belongs to everyone after all
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09-29-2015, 05:16 PM | #40 |
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the most important thing is that elph belives he belongs to a sub culture that didnt exist. mark e smith, siouxie and robert smith dont call themselves "post punkers" nobody does, its not a thing
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09-29-2015, 05:39 PM | #41 |
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Certainly it's easy to point to very clear examples of people disrespectfully co-opting something from someone else's culture, like as a costume or in mockery... but in general I think the dialogue our society is adopting is that all cultural transference is appropriation, which sorry, but in my opinion is completely stupid and historically blind to what the fuck a culture even is and how it comes to be.
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09-29-2015, 05:46 PM | #42 |
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No they wouldn't call themselves post punk or Goth or indie or anything because those terms were invented in retrospect to describe them
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09-29-2015, 05:49 PM | #43 |
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I have no regional identity and I grew up on the internet, I never belonged to a culture to begin with
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09-29-2015, 06:02 PM | #44 |
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I mean Trots is correct even in such a trivial instance, it looks stupid for someone to personally identify with something they were not a part of, but we all are more seriously guilty of this in many day-to-day ways than elphenor thinking he is a "post-punker" or whatever.
Identities are passed and adopted in a lot of really complicated ways I guess, and there are a lot of "thin lines" around identification. We live in an interesting time because with the advent of the internet, it seems as if popular culture has stopped moving linearly, and has compartmentalized into a billion tiny niches, each one a reference to some cultural occurrence (mostly from the post-WWII era). I had a professor in school who used to talk a lot about how for most of the "modern era" young people essentially had a few different "uniforms" or subcultures/cultural niches to choose from, all of which were temporarily and geographically immediate. Now, a classroom full of young people is just as likely to contain a person who has listened to the entire Johnny Cash discography or is a silent movie buff, or dresses like a greaser than it is to contain kids whose cultural interests are limited to the present and the immediate. |
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09-29-2015, 06:03 PM | #45 | |
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we have special racial considerations in america ofc but balkanization is not an option. before long these din******s will be cl******g for separate but equal and/or homeland segregation |
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09-29-2015, 06:04 PM | #46 |
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09-29-2015, 06:09 PM | #47 | |
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I saw an article the other day calling for Jews to reverse their integration into white culture in the US, and to start just identifying as Jews again, to help undo white supremacy. This makes less than zero sense to me, especially in light of the contemporary intellectual understanding that race as culture is something inescapable, that it is defined primarily by privilege and oppression (hence why no white person can identify as black no matter how immersed in the culture that person is). If this is so, how can people who look white, who have been treated as white, who have enjoyed white privilege to the fullest extent and in many ways as a group far exceeded mainstream white Christian socioeconomic success... how can a group like this choose to not be white? I know there are many different voices and opinions in this discussion and I am not really being fair by lumping a bunch of them together and then pitting them against each other, but it can be quite hard to figure out. It sometimes does make me feel like many of these people are just insulating their own identities as "good whites" or "allies" while propagating a bunch of ideologies that have no consistency and ultimately are not doing anything to make white people less racist or to elevate non-white status. Last edited by redbreegull : 09-29-2015 at 06:18 PM. |
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09-29-2015, 06:53 PM | #48 |
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09-29-2015, 07:36 PM | #49 | |
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im sure most if not all jews think this person is retarded and further if that holds true then logically i should be able to separate from whiteness on account of being irish, whic is ultimately england's first stab at colonialist oppression. well the welsh and scots too perhaps. im a little of a bunch of stuff, my fams, my heritage, my regional identity. ideally, and i feel this is true for myself, everyone should be mixing and interacting with each other and enjoying the richness of everyones cultures and forging a united identity but that dont drive clicks n comments do it Last edited by Trotskilicious : 09-29-2015 at 08:01 PM. |
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09-29-2015, 07:50 PM | #50 | |
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09-29-2015, 07:59 PM | #51 |
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which is miserable to watch because racists are also becoming more extreme and bold in their actions and words, and there are so many important things that need to be said and done to fight white supremacy, but what people want to talk about is how Miley Cyrus twerking on Robin Thicke is the nadir of the black experience in america
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09-29-2015, 08:01 PM | #52 |
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AND IM WHITE STRAIGHTISH MAN SO STFU
kinda ok with SingTFU at this time of my life |
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09-29-2015, 08:02 PM | #53 | |
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09-29-2015, 08:07 PM | #54 |
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and i think the society is racially stratified and we spent way too much congratulating ourselves on the 60s but white supremacy is strong words. this isnt apartheid or jim crow.
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09-29-2015, 08:52 PM | #55 | |
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tldr: personally as long as white people hold a superlative place in society and they as individuals or institutions fight to maintain that, I don't think it is unfair to say that is a white supremacist culture. |
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09-29-2015, 09:32 PM | #56 |
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09-30-2015, 10:35 AM | #57 |
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He'll yeah wipers! Haven't listened to them in too long. Is it true dude insisted on pressing his own vinyl b/c didn't trust anyone else to do it right? How the fuck does anyone have time to learn to press vinyl and also write/record? I can barely find time to write a bassline to a song I've had on the workbench for two years.
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03-19-2017, 03:46 PM | #58 |
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03-19-2017, 03:48 PM | #59 |
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But srsly, for me it is (was) The Mountain Goats. For years, nobody I knew IRL knew them or could stand them when I played them. When I first met the lady who is now my ladyfriend about five years ago, it was the first time I had ever bumped into a real, flesh and blood fan of TMG.
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03-19-2017, 05:33 PM | #60 | |
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edit oh i already covered it, pretty much every white kid under 24 and under doesn't have their own culture tho & i've come to realize almost all new bands sound exactly like an old & obscure band Last edited by Trotskilicious : 03-19-2017 at 05:42 PM. |
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