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Old 06-05-2018, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default Man how cringeworthy was American Gothic?

The Rose March was ruined by the constant OH overdubs, Again x3 is like substandard Goo Goo Dolls, Pox is legit one of the worst songs I’ve ever heard in my life, and I can barely remember how Sunkissed goes.

Also don’t forget how Chris Isaak said “some call them rock, I prefer to call them American Gothic”

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 03:13 PM   #2
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American Gothic is when it really hit for me that it was over. Hot garbage. From the title, to the art, to the terrible songs. I forgot about Pox but man that song stinks.

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 03:48 PM   #3
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no idea

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 03:55 PM   #4
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isn't that when jc decided to check out?

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 03:55 PM   #5
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You're so right Brad Storch. You know what else sucks? Skin and Bones by Foo Fighters. Now let's go to their discussion board to talk about how much they suck!! Who's with me? Let's DO THIS!! RAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa!!!!

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 03:58 PM   #6
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You're so right Brad Storch. You know what else sucks? Skin and Bones by Foo Fighters. Now let's go to their discussion board to talk about how much they suck!! Who's with me? Let's DO THIS!! RAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa!!!!
Imagine being this person

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:01 PM   #7
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isn't that when jc decided to check out?
AG came out New Years' day 2008 but the last thing Jimmy did was G.L.O.W, November that year.

I'm guessing AG was probably what made him decide to split and G.L.O.W was one more rawk tune for old times' sake.

I've come around on The Rose March but most of it's just really fucking forgettable.

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:01 PM   #8
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Imagine being this person
RAAAAAaaaaaaaa!!!!!! huh?

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:06 PM   #9
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I agree apart from Rose March. That's probably one of my top 3 post reunion songs. Up there with some of their original line up material for me.

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:26 PM   #10
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I agree apart from Rose March. That's probably one of my top 3 post reunion songs. Up there with some of their original line up material for me.
Agreed but that studio version was awful. Why didn't they just release an EP of the stuff from the Fillmore? That they setup and fucking recorded there.

That's what I don't get about Billy. He can't just put something out. It has to be this long unnecessary drawn out ordeal. AG was just studio butchery. Just release something as it sounds for once.

There's so many la la las and ohs in rose March it nearly sinks a top tier song.

 
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:31 PM   #11
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RAAAAAaaaaaaaa!!!!!! huh?
Isn’t there a SP subreddit you can go on and talk about how WPC has never written a bad song and that Zeitgeist is an underrated classic and what your ideal MCIS and TAFH triple album would look like?

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:28 PM   #12
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Rose march is really good. Ohs ahs dont bother me. Stitch in time is good too

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:29 PM   #13
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Bothe songs have a great melody..sure the production can be discussef

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:32 PM   #14
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Quite liked Pox and Sunkissed.

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 02:32 PM   #15
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Bothe songs have a great melody..sure the production can be discussef

Monte is that you

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 03:19 PM   #16
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montef

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 09:53 PM   #17
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American Gothic was awful. I remember a lot of people hoping that Zeitgeist was just a way for BC/JC to get back in the groove and that the music would be better from then on... Then it was GLOW, Superchrist and FOL and it was like "shit, this is actually worse than Zeitgeist" and then by the time American Gothic dropped, it seemed clear that things weren't going to get any better and that Zeitgeist was actually the high-water mark.

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:50 PM   #18
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"Another baby tweezed"

nuff said.

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:32 PM   #19
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Another restless bitch (still fucked)

So edgy

It just baffles me that at the residencies he wrote 10-12 good to genuinely great acoustic songs and then made a 4 song EP with one ruined residency song and 3 absolutely dreadful new songs.

Like how good would American Gothic have been if it was

The Rose March
Peace and Love
The Leaving Lament
No Surrender
99 Floors
Question Mark

 
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:52 PM   #20
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I kind of liked American Gothic at the time, at least I liked it a lot more than Zeitgeist, and then TbK would prove to be much worse. I don't think it's nearly as bad as most people make it out to be, but it is pretty forgettable. At least TbK was remarkably bad.

 
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Old 06-07-2018, 05:47 AM   #21
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never listened to the whole thing

 
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:28 PM   #22
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WTF that small EP is the best shit since 2000. POX is brilliant.

 
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:04 PM   #23
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Sad thing is he could have easily had a hit single with a song from that era. and this is what he did with it:

https://youtu.be/gzuc7joxXE0

The comments are classic

 
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:24 AM   #24
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it's ok, honestly though thinking back to this i can't say it was better than Ogilaly

 
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:36 AM   #25
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I actually really liked it. He should have done a whole acoustic album like this. The songs are pretty and seem sincere and actually don't have cringeworthy lyrics. "Sunkissed" is exceptional. I'm not gonna retrograde hate on BC just to hate, only if he does something genuinely awful like Solara.

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