Silvery Sometimes (Ghosts) to be released on September 13

[Zer0 Hour]

One thing that really stuck out to me here is that Billy can't act in music videos unless he's lip-synching along with his songs. Compare his stage presence in the Bullet or Ava Adore videos with what he's doing here. In this, he looks awkward and unsure of what to do with himself. He should never be an extra in a movie.

[dustrocck]

1. Intro is way too long. McGrath is fine but it could have been 30 seconds and worked. I get that IRL it probably would be that long and awkward, but come on man, I only have several hours of screen time today, 2 minutes of McGrath is too much. Also, seeing the Zero shirts in the crowd was weird for some reason.

2. Is that Jack looking like Zeitgeist-era Ben Stiller?

3. Is Billy in the rabbit costume watching TV a nod to David Lynch?

4. Jeff would totally wear earplugs when he sleeps, I laughed.

5. I saw Billy tampering with the machine/television and then going up to James/Jimmy/Jeff (note we don't see Jack at all after the intro) convincing them to do the reunion tour. And the goblin that appeared was obviously D'arcy.

[Mals Marola]

Man y'all are really desperate to draw these D'arcy parallels eh

[Disco King]

The "she couldn't be here" thing legit seems like they are taking a shot at her, imo. Probably not the bat-goblin thing, though.

[Shadaloo]

It's about D'Arcy if you're holding up a magnifying glass and looking for D'Arcy references.

Now, Jack Bates in a dress with a Jason Voorheees mask on in the Solara video? That I could see as an actual intentional potshot.

[Disco King]

Nah, not everything seems like it could be a shot at Wretzky. Just that one part that seems like it could be a shot at Wretzky.

This is Corgan we're talking about. It's not exactly a conspiracy theory that he's kinda petty.

[Shadaloo]

Well, in this thread alone, folks think the goblin might be D'Arcy, and that the cardboard cut-out might be D'Arcy. And while he might be petty I don't think he's going to go out of his way to do it for two straight videos, that's just inviting continued commentary on her.

McGrath at the end was just McGrath, complete with the Sugar Ray lyric as a flip of the bird to people who can't stand him.

[laradelocke]

everything after mark mcgrath (wtf) was great.

[laradelocke]

Imagine if this is just some sort of mechanism to introduce Mark McGrath as another member.

[laradelocke]

okay, sorry y'all I have been out of the loop way too long here and not keeping up. Did Mark McGrath actually tour with the latest incarnation last time round? I didn't make any of those shows. I thought this was a joke..but I can't see shit from googling and someone earlier mentioned him being on this video was a middle finger to those who didn't like his presence on the tour..

[Shadaloo]

Originally Posted by laradelocke

okay, sorry y'all I have been out of the loop way too long here and not keeping up. Did Mark McGrath actually tour with the latest incarnation last time round? I didn't make any of those shows. I thought this was a joke..but I can't see shit from googling and someone earlier mentioned him being on this video was a middle finger to those who didn't like his presence on the tour..

He didn't tour with them but on the Shiny tour he had two recorded Vaudevillian intermission/song introduction segments:

https://www.stereogum.com/2005757/sm...mcgrath/video/

And they were awkward and kind of irritating.

[wHATcOLOR]

Originally Posted by topleybird

This has 1.6m as I write this and it came out today

Also it's awesome

SP video was preeeeeetty preeeeeetty dumb. really dumb and i’d be happy if i don’t watch it again

this video, however, was pretty cool! definitely enjoyed it, so thanks!

[paranoid]

The thing I love most is that they had all of those dumb sad machines fans go over there just to stand in a crowd and listen to sugar ray give some dumb speech.

[Mals Marola]

that truly is the most beautiful part of this all. Bill's finding more & more clever ways to flip off the Montes of Camp SP

[Corgan's Bluff]

Corgan should hire Sugar McGrath as the singer of the Pumpkins on tour...

Will be as cheap as Jack Bates.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

One thing that really stuck out to me here is that Billy can't act in music videos unless he's lip-synching along with his songs. Compare his stage presence in the Bullet or Ava Adore videos with what he's doing here. In this, he looks awkward and unsure of what to do with himself. He should never be an extra in a movie.

His little acting role as a doctor in "Spun" was so awkward... He didn't do himself a favor with it.
They should have synchronised his voice by another person.

[Oklahoma Sexual]

Originally Posted by paranoid

Omg is that that fucking clay tucket guy dressed in the zeitgeist billy era garb in the beginning? LOFL

no that's someone else. but clay IS in the video, looking like a doofus

[laradelocke]

Originally Posted by Shadaloo

He didn't tour with them but on the Shiny tour he had two recorded Vaudevillian intermission/song introduction segments:

https://www.stereogum.com/2005757/sm...mcgrath/video/

And they were awkward and kind of irritating.

Oh lord..thanks for the update.. I *can't wait* to listen to this later. Haha..ha..

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by paranoid

The thing I love most is that they had all of those dumb sad machines fans go over there just to stand in a crowd and listen to sugar ray give some dumb speech.

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

that truly is the most beautiful part of this all. Bill's finding more & more clever ways to flip off the Montes of Camp SP

Is he really "flipping them off" if they are so eager to guzzle that shit down that they consider it an honour? These people aren't self-aware enough to feel slighted.

[Razor Star]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Is he really "flipping them off" if they are so eager to guzzle that shit down that they consider it an honour? These people aren't self-aware enough to feel slighted.

I don't think it's an issue really. They needed extras for a crowd scene, fans are going to be happy to do it and they bring their own t-shirts. Everyones a winner. I doubt any fans signing up to it expected a starring role.

[Disco King]

Tru

[jimmy drevpile]

Interview and stuff today on 6Music: https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m0000q4q. Starts 02:06

[dustrocck]

Man my D'arcy goblin joke sure didn't work

[Corgan's Bluff]

New video director WPC recommends himself:

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5f&oe=5C5F28F1

[MyKeyZ]

Well that was godawful. Jesus, I am embarrassed for liking this band.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Originally Posted by Oklahoma Sexual

no that's someone else. but clay IS in the video, looking like a doofus

Clay's painted princess Brittany marked herself and sent the photo to Corgan's Instagram:

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bb&oe=5C49ACA9

[Kahlo]

who?

[slunken]

Great Halloween video. It's fun and funny. I liked it. Too short.

[MplsTaper]

Could not make it through the whole thing (e.g. Solara). Maybe some other time.

[FoolofaTook]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm2r-yOVsAAZ4F-.jpg:large