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Old 10-13-2020, 11:52 AM   #31
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Die is essential XYU


16:40 always felt like the time jimmy decided to take a toilet break...
and they all wait for him.

 
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Old 10-13-2020, 12:31 PM   #32
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I am not my brother in laws keeper
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Old 10-13-2020, 02:25 PM   #33
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It does have those things, but I always felt like he was showcasing the fucked up parts of his personality, hopefully in a way that stops it from coming out in a worse way. I mean it's basically some kind of super-controlling husband/boyfriend possessive abusive rape song, isn't it? I don't think Billy is that person, but that kind of controlling impulse might lose power by expressing it in some way that's not dangerous


In theory.
Weirdest/darkest interpretation I ever heard that stuck with me is that it was partially from the perspective of an aborted fetus. "I am the forgotten child"

Live he'd sing "And it began to snow inside her / she took a razor and she cut it out"

 
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Old 10-13-2020, 04:19 PM   #34
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oh god of course he's pro life

 
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Old 10-13-2020, 04:48 PM   #35
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wtf I hate XYU now

 
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:02 PM   #36
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XYU is definitely a song about young Billy's rape fantasies

 
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Old 10-13-2020, 10:52 PM   #37
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It's probably just about two maladjusted, unstable people in a dysfunctional relationship.

I.e. about his relationship with Courtney Love.

 
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Old 10-13-2020, 11:40 PM   #38
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Def about C Love

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 01:08 AM   #39
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10.31.98 is a barn burner though.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 01:17 AM   #40
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is that why Darsey quit?

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 01:00 PM   #41
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XYU = ex, why you? It's about his ex wife.

It's not a pro-life anthem.

The rant from barnburner XYU 10/31/98 is alluding to the in-progress GATGC

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 02:09 PM   #42
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He was still married genius. Chris was even on Modern Rock Live with him right after MCIS came out. It’s clearly about Courtney.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 03:21 PM   #43
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married couples tend to break up before they divorce, genius. its a long and complicated legal process.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 03:52 PM   #44
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It’s clearly about Mary.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 04:17 PM   #45
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it's clearly about something that reinforces how much of a bad person billy corgan must be therefore i hate him.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 04:32 PM   #46
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married couples tend to break up before they divorce, genius. its a long and complicated legal process.
They weren’t broken up. Seriously doubt you’re gonna write a song about how much you want to murder and rape your wife, which is what XYU is, while still married.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 06:10 PM   #47
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They weren’t broken up. Seriously doubt you’re gonna write a song about how much you want to murder and rape your wife, which is what XYU is, while still married.
Stop kinkshaming

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 06:57 PM   #48
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married couples tend to break up before they divorce, genius. its a long and complicated legal process.
It's not always long and complicated either, genius.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 06:58 PM   #49
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It's obviously about an abusive, fucked up situation, and I agree there are many proto-MRA type feelings, but he says break, not rape.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 06:58 PM   #50
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xyu is a misogynistic tantrum

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 06:59 PM   #51
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It’s obviously about that time big willie coiled his tongue round a bumblebee mouth

Why u jr scientists gotta overthink and mansplain everything to your sweaty selves

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 07:08 PM   #52
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It's not always long and complicated either, genius.
I was also surprised I didn't get a 5 paragraph breakdown of why I'm wrong.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 07:53 PM   #53
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It’s in my top 10 for sure.

 
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Old 10-14-2020, 11:18 PM   #54
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It's obviously about an abusive, fucked up situation, and I agree there are many proto-MRA type feelings, but he says break, not rape.
i think the most innocent interpretation is breaking their will/spirit, but i mean...

"i wanna fill you up"
"i wanna break you"
"knows that she could never hide"
"i couldn't feel her"
"you're all mine"

to be clear i don't think writing about this/singing about it means someone would or even wants to do something like this in reality but it's totally about rape.

i don't know how to describe it, but there's totally a reason trying to leave abusive men is very dangerous. false imprisonment/rape/murdering you and/or your children is a real threat

 
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:18 PM   #55
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it's about trying to save a relationship through domination

poor sweet little billy doesn't want to be all rapey, he'd much prefer to be in love and be gentle.
but she's crazy. So he has to be crazier and controlling.

classic dysfunctional relationship.
the kind that ends in restraining orders.

yes they're both crazy.

 
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:43 PM   #56
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yes, please, let's continue hyperanalyzing a dead dude's poetry from 25 years ago

y'all deserve CYR

 
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:44 PM   #57
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everyone already knows XYU is about Billy's cat, anyway

 
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:14 PM   #58
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16:40 always felt like the time jimmy decided to take a toilet break...
and they all wait for him.
Not too far off. Billy talked about it in the liner notes for TAFH. Jimmy's drum pedal broke and the band kept playing the riff while he fixed it. When it took longer than they realized, D'arcy stopped but Billy and James just kept it up to annoy everyone. Once the pedal was fixed, you hear Jimmy jump right back in at the end of the recording. Actually one of the funner/more charming things Billy wrote about in the liner notes for the reissues.

 
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:36 PM   #59
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wow, i missed that... it's in the liner notes of the deluxe edition? I thought I had read them.
ever since I was a teenager I imagined them just droning on waiting for jimmy to finish his #2

 
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:39 PM   #60
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that's also when i became a swans fan


 
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