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Old 09-18-2020, 03:59 PM   #151
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I did find a 30 second clip of "minerva", it sounds more like classic SP

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cyr-Smashing-Pumpkins/clips/B08FXDD-Minerva

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:02 PM   #152
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I did find a 30 second clip of "minerva", it sounds more like classic SP

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cyr-Smashing-Pumpkins/clips/B08FXDD-Minerva
i don't know.. hard to swallow imo

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:08 PM   #153
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this album is bad.

completely forgettable.

who would have thought that having Jimmy and James back together would result in such garbage

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:10 PM   #154
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this album is bad.

completely forgettable.

who would have thought that having Jimmy and James back together would result in such garbage
you've heard 2 songs.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:14 PM   #155
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this album is bad.


 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:15 PM   #156
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Some people have heard more than two songs.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:15 PM   #157
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I bet James has heard at least half of them.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:18 PM   #158
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Some people have heard more than two songs.
who, and what info do we have about what the other songs are like?

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:19 PM   #159
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This entire era is awful.

If the last album had been released in 1993 instead of SD none of us would even known who SP is today.

One big problem with almost all of Bill's music since the reunion has been that it's not about much of anything. It's just cute rhymes and senseless lyrics. Add to that very generic sounding riffs and forgettable melodies. And also the decline of his voice, which sounds more like a lack of emotion.

The last album Bill made that attempted to at least say something was Oceania. There are a number of songs on that album that tell a story. About Mark dying, or being dumped by the Veronicas twins, or how he was tormented by the loss of his mother.

At least those songs felt like they came from somewhere other than a need to fulfill the terms of whatever record contract he was under. The last several albums worth of music have been about nothing. No message. No emotion. No progress.

In the past 2 decades he's made two good albums. MSOTS and TFE. If none of the rest of his music had been made he's probably be remembered fondly. But instead we get this trash and an angry right wing monster who rants on the Alex Jones show and threatens people on twitter

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Old 09-18-2020, 04:21 PM   #160
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What album?

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:22 PM   #161
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you've heard 2 songs.
I just listened to the last abortion of a record and am glad that I stopped giving bill my money for his product a decade ago.

The dream is dead.

Rest in piss, William Patrick

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:25 PM   #162
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the next record will be worse or the same as the last.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:27 PM   #163
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what the fuck does any of this even mean?? 21st century billy word salad

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Fragments form the minds
Shadows hold the mist
Fractured as this wish
Shattered I resign
We're on the verge, we're on the verge
Of sacred dawning and sloe-sloe eyes
Say, I done told you (ah)
Say how I tried, too
Where you've wrought from creation's crown
Say, dire warning
Stare down your masters
With the promise of one and what you are
We're on the verge
Tangents vex the whorl
The void arrives, then leaves
Returning, returning a kiss
For lovers built the dream
Say, I done told you
Say how I tried, too
Where you've wrought from creation's crown
Say, dire warning
Stare down your masters
With the promise of one and what you are
We're on the verge
Did the times, wind
Did the crowd, kind
Aping youth, wise
Ever lost, ides
'Midst the chaff, as meek
And those weak, as sand…

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:27 PM   #164
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the next record will be worse or the same as the last.
you've heard the whole record? if you have share with us what it's like.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:31 PM   #165
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He can't write memorable lyrics anymore. A bot could write his lyrics and they'd make as much sense. He sounds uninspired on all of his music because he's singing meaningless nonsense.

Compare CYR to Adore

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It's you that I adore
You'll always be my whore
You'll be a mother to my child
And a child to my heart
We must never be apart
We must never be apart
Lovely girl you're the beauty in my world
Without you there aren't reasons left to find
And I'll pull your crooked teeth
You'll be perfect just like me
You'll be a lover in my bed
And a gun to my head
We must never be apart
We must never be apart
Lovely girl, you're the murder in my world
Dressing coffins for the souls I've left to die
I'm drinking mercury to the mystery
Of all that you should ever leave behind
In time
In you I see dirty
In you I count stars
In you I feel so pretty
In you I taste god
In you I feel so hungry
In you I crash cars
We must never be apart
I'm drinking mercury
To the mystery of all that you should ever seek to find
Lovely girl you're the murder in my world
Dressing coffins for the souls I've left behind
In time
We must never be apart
And you'll always be my whore
'Cause you're the one that I adore
And I'll pull your crooked teeth
You'll be perfect just like me
In you I feel so dirty
In you I crash cars
In you I feel so pretty
In you I taste god

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:32 PM   #166
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Some people have heard more than two songs.
Like ... Gary?

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:34 PM   #167
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Why are you listening to lame-ass Pashing Dumplings?

LISTEN TO BORIS INSTEAD, FOOLS:::




WATA IS POWERFUL

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:35 PM   #168
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hoping he makes good music again is like hoping your abusive husband doesn't hit you again tonight

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:35 PM   #169
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Why are you listening to lame-ass Pashing Dumplings?

LISTEN TO BORIS INSTEAD, FOOLS:::




WATA IS POWERFUL
this is so much better

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:36 PM   #170
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hoping he makes good music again is like hoping your abusive husband doesn't hit you again tonight
ok so you haven't heard the record.

CYR does suck. I like color of love. sue me. sue me hard.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:37 PM   #171
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also compare the lyrics to annie dog and you'll notice he's been writing non sense for years.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:38 PM   #172
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like wtf is this shit

Amphetamine Annie-dog
Has her leash and a face
Her velvet spleen her shackle spine
Her diamond curse
It comes with mine
A vessel she
For violent I
Confession arms a wake
Mine, mine you were always mine
Possessed by my taste
And below the angel dog
Combs her hair and sings her psalms
The bombs go off
She doesn't notice
It all goes wrong
She sets things tragic
She is Venus
She is mars
She's electric
And the struggle of
Upon my face we leave no trace
But in her stomach mercury aged
She holds the blood
She carves the knives
She digs the wives in our babies
Amphetamine Annie-dog
Pulls her trash
And her stories
From place to place
And bed to bed
Gives of herself and the magnet head
Another floor another ceiling
Counting stairs with double…

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:41 PM   #173
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you really want to die on that hill?

You want to argue that the quality of bill's lyrics is no different from 23 years ago?

Even Monte wouldn't say that

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:41 PM   #174
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The man has written hundreds of songs. But not a good one in 15 years

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:42 PM   #175
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ON top of that he is a raging bigot and a monster who supports Alt Right politics.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:44 PM   #176
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say i done told you

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:45 PM   #177
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you're comparing a song to a song from an era where his lyrics were just as ridiculous in quite a few cases.

but yes if you compare it to sheila for example well duh that's better.

but you're saying the album is shit with only hearing two songs. you might be right at the end of it all but i can't get behind that.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:46 PM   #178
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god i fucking hate this band.

i hate its fans even more.

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:49 PM   #179
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The man has written hundreds of songs. But not a good one in 15 years
lots of good ones on TFE. camera eye, dia, mina loy, a few here and there in eras after that. gossamer, tom tom, stellar, superchrist etc etc

 
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:51 PM   #180
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god i fucking hate this band.

i hate its fans even more.


And you can't quite either, can you?

 
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