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10-08-2020, 08:59 AM | #2611 |
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What the fuck is this doing in the Machina thread
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10-08-2020, 11:05 AM | #2612 |
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Would be really cool to split the album soundwise and the last chance to release a good one
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10-08-2020, 11:07 AM | #2613 |
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last chance... do you know something we don't brother L????
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10-08-2020, 11:50 AM | #2614 |
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10-23-2020, 02:02 AM | #2615 |
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50-51 tracks not including outtakes.
Currently being mixed. What the fuck. Please let this be true. What could these 50-51 tracks even be? |
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10-23-2020, 02:25 AM | #2616 |
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i mean those ******* the two records, right? plus sleeping giant, strength in numbers, pale scales...
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10-23-2020, 02:26 AM | #2617 |
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not to be edgy but why are you all getting invested in this
haven't you LEARNED?? countdown 2 was a tracklist. others were shitty synth songs and dumb cartoons. no more promise, no more sorrow |
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10-23-2020, 03:00 AM | #2618 |
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10-23-2020, 04:25 AM | #2619 |
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THAT IS NOT ENOUGH WE NEED MORE THAN 48
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10-23-2020, 11:49 AM | #2620 | ||
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Because If something isn't to my liking I move on instead of curling up in a corner crying and going "wahh wahh nothing will ever be good again" |
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10-23-2020, 12:07 PM | #2621 |
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I am a fan of Machina and I do not care about this at all. Will probably still listen to the originals. I am not a fan of remasters.
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10-23-2020, 01:33 PM | #2622 | |
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10-24-2020, 05:32 AM | #2623 | |
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and mastered. key word being mixed because Machina 2 was never mixed properly to begin with. Clean sounding Machina 2 tracks. for fucks sake - that could be rad. |
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10-24-2020, 05:39 AM | #2624 |
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i honestly like m2 as it is
but then again i listen to the double door show boots |
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10-24-2020, 12:48 PM | #2625 |
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So I guess we're not getting that many unheard of songs from this era, bummer.
Here is my list that I composed before his IG video which is oddly 51 tracks: 1. 3rd Boogie 2. Age of Innocence 3. Aldo Novocaine 4. Autumn 5. Blue Skies Bring Tears 6. Cash Car Star 7. Drain 8. Dross 9. End of the Joke 10. Glass and the Ghost Children 11. Glass' Theme 12. Go 13. Heavy Metal Machine 14. Here I Am 15. Here's to the Atom Bomb 16. Home 17. I of the Mourning 18. If There Is a God 19. In My Body 20. Innosense 21. Jester's Dance 22. Laugh 23. Le Deux Machina 24. Let Me Give the World to You 25. Lover 26. Lucky 13 27. Pale Scales 28. Raindrops + Sunshowers 29. Real Love 30. Rock On (David Essex) 31. Saturnine 32. Sleeping Giant 33. Slow Dawn 34. Soot and Stars 35. Soul Power (James Brown) 36. Speed Kills 37. Stand Inside Your Love 38. The Crying Tree of Mercury 39. The Everlasting Gaze 40. The Imploding Voice 41. The Sacred and Profane 42. This Time 43. Try, Try, Try 44. Untitled 45. Vanity 46. White Spyder 47. Winterlong 48. With Every Light 49. Without You 50. Wound 51. Wurlitzer Piece Was the Machina era B-side "Liberty and the Epiphany Machine" real? Was "We Love You" ever recorded? Is "Identify" considered Machina era? I was hoping that Satellites would have some kind of full band rock version from the Machina sessions. |
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10-24-2020, 12:54 PM | #2626 |
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Billy considers Identify to be Machina era and said it will be included (the same demo that leaked I’m assuming)
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10-24-2020, 03:28 PM | #2627 |
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Identify > better than anything in the last 20 years
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10-27-2020, 11:00 AM | #2628 |
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I don't think Pale Scales, Rock On or Soul Power are going to be on the core album.
One's a tour intro, the other two toss-off covers. This isn't CD1: Machina 1, CD 2&3: Machina 2. Le Deux Machina is the centre piano piece (synth demo) of GATMOG. Assuming that is still present the way it was on the initial version of M1 there's no reason for it to show up again. Even if they use a different version of song like the leaked version I can't see it showing up as a toss-off instrumental demo just sitting there. He confirmed a while back Saturnine wasn't going to be part of the tracklist either I'm assuming all that stuff is relegated to b-sides and bonus disc material. |
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10-27-2020, 11:11 AM | #2629 |
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Rock On and Soul Power are 100% part of the core album and the reason for the rights dispute / delay.
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10-27-2020, 11:31 AM | #2630 | |
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IIRC Bill also said that on the IG Q&As a few years back that he wasn't paid properly for the Adore reissue and that was one of the things holding them back. To my knowledge that's the only concrete bit of info we've ever had apart from bullshit speculation about covers or Vasily Kafanov's artwork. |
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10-27-2020, 12:31 PM | #2631 |
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I think I’m at peace with the washed out and white noise mixes of Slow Dawn, Vanity, RL etc
It’s been too long and I don’t wanna know how modern Billy re-purposes this stuff. |
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10-27-2020, 12:57 PM | #2632 | |
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10-27-2020, 02:14 PM | #2633 | |
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it doesn't necessarily do so on glass' theme, cash car, etc, but honestly i don't give a shit, i still don't want to hear 2020 corgan ruin it. there's plenty of good live boots with those |
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10-27-2020, 04:02 PM | #2634 |
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Well, Monuments may have been a piece of shit record but it was produced well for what it was, same with Cyr and Cotillons
Shiny V1 was Rick Rubin's fault The only time in recent memory when Bill's production left a bit to be desired for me was Oceania, and that's because the drums sounded absolutely programmed Nothing wrong with enjoying MII for what it always has been but that "aesthetic" is straight up unfinished and tossed off, always was. Sounded like shit to me on first listen back in the day |
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10-27-2020, 04:15 PM | #2635 |
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Hell, the MCIS remaster was straight up stellar. Bill's not at the mixing or mastering desk.
I mean, I can totally understand not having faith in Bill these days but look at it this way Worst comes to worse, just take the new track order and apply it to the old tracks where you can, see if that works for you, or just apply the MI and II configurations to the new versions. Fuck, I'm probably gonna do that anyway and have a few different configurations to listen to. If you sit there convincing yourself it's going to be shit your reaction to it is probably a foregone conclusion and that's on you |
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10-27-2020, 04:25 PM | #2636 |
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i love that this thread is well over 2 years old and we're not necessarily any closer to getting this than we thought we were back then
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10-28-2020, 04:23 AM | #2637 |
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10-28-2020, 04:29 AM | #2638 |
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10-28-2020, 06:00 AM | #2639 | |
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The production isnt the prob. Bollys lame songwriting, unbearable lyrics and choice of instruments is horrible. No good songs.... |
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10-28-2020, 07:53 AM | #2640 | |
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Oceania sounded somewhat decent, even if the songs were substanceless. |
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