International POLITICS - ongoing shitshow edition

[buzzard]

[Tchocky]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...skeptic-219022

[MplsTaper]

Obviously the European Union, as represented by @JunckerEU and the United States, as represented by yours truly, love each other! pic.twitter.com/42ImacgCN0

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2018

The EU is in bed with putin's whore. Enjoy the soybeans!

[Shallowed]

Trump should do more showing than telling. It makes for a more engaging story.

[pavementtune]

Originally Posted by MplsTaper

Obviously the European Union, as represented by @JunckerEU and the United States, as represented by yours truly, love each other! pic.twitter.com/42ImacgCN0

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2018

haha

Originally Posted by Trump

I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now, you wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe.

July 14

[buzzard]

"I don't even know if that's a crime - colluding with Russians," Giuliani said on CNN. "Hacking is the crime. The president didn't hack. He didn't pay for the hacking."

"I have been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. Collusion is not a crime," he said on Fox.

Next, they're having Elon Musk attach the goal posts to a Tesla and shift them all the way to Mars. Boy, it's fun to watch Team Trump sweat.

[Elphenor]

really makes you wonder

[reprise85]

conspiracy isn't a crime. that's why i can convince someone to kill my husband and as long as i don't do it myself or pay them i'm in the clear

[buzzard]

I often wonder if Trump's people have less respect for his voters than even we do.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

crooked trump

[fuzzyroes]

Great interview with a phenomenally brilliant author

(Fast forward to the 5:38 mark)

[LaBelle]

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Great interview with a phenomenally brilliant author

(Fast forward to the 5:38 mark)

chomsky just hates netanyahu. and he's a fucking linguist and cogntive psychologist. and he should stick to writing about language acquisition, because he sucks as an interviewee

not that you even know or care who chomsky is. you would probably hate about 95% of his political opinions. but good job finding a tiny soundbite

[redbreegull]

Noam Chomsky said that not voting for Clinton was an act of evil

go fuck yourself fuzzyroes you dumb fucking dickbag

[fuzzyroes]

Well, the whole Russia controversy is a bit silly. I like Trump, but I don't think he's this evil genius who cooked up a scheme with Putin. It's just the deep-states way to keep their thumb on Trump. It's cruel, they're not even giving him the chance to govern when they have this hanging over his head.

The media is already going nuts saying that the "Russians are trying to hack the election again by targeting midterm candidates with Phishing attacks". I don't know much about hacking, but phishing has to be the least sophisticated form of it.

[redbreegull]

seriously fuzzy doesn't even understand the point he's making

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Well, the whole Russia controversy is a bit silly. I like Trump, but I don't think he's this evil genius who cooked up a scheme with Putin. It's just the deep-states way to keep their thumb on Trump. It's cruel, they're not even giving him the chance to govern.

The media is already going nuts saying that the "Russians are trying to hack the election again by targeting midterm candidates with Phishing attacks". I don't know much about hacking, but phishing has to be the least sophisticated form of it.

The Russians did try to sway the election. And they are doing it again now. That's not debatable, that is verified fact.

You don't understand Chomsky's point

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Well, the whole Russia controversy is a bit silly. I like Trump, but I don't think he's this evil genius who cooked up a scheme with Putin. It's just the deep-states way to keep their thumb on Trump. It's cruel, they're not even giving him the chance to govern when they have this hanging over his head.

The media is already going nuts saying that the "Russians are trying to hack the election again by targeting midterm candidates with Phishing attacks". I don't know much about hacking, but phishing has to be the least sophisticated form of it.

i dont think trump cooked up a scheme with putin. i think some mopes were put on trump's associates to find one who would be weak or stupid enough to give him them an indirect audience with trump, and at some point trump this happened (several points probably) and trump knew the russians were trying to sabotage voting machines and voter rolls along with less-shady stuff like fake social media stuff and thought hey who cares it's good for me. and now they have the records of him signing off on it to blackmail him with. i think he really didn't think it was a big deal at the time. and i also wouldn't be surprised if putin had a hand in shaping the landscape that he was able to win the primary in, since this obviously was a long term plan

[fuzzyroes]

Oh no! Are the Russians making more Twitter trolls?! How UNACCEPTABLE! Lmao

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

there's proof they were able to get into electronic voting records. it already happened dingus

No there isn't. There is no evidence or reason to believe that they actually hacked the voting machines. None whatsoever.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

i dont think trump cooked up a scheme with putin. i think some mopes were put on trump's associates to find one who would be weak or stupid enough to give him them an indirect audience with trump, and at some point trump this happened (several points probably)and trump knew the russians were trying to sabotage voting machines and voter rolls along with less-shady stuff like fake social media stuff and thought hey who cares it's good for me. and now they have the records of him signing off on it to blackmail him with. i think he really didn't think it was a big deal at the time.

I don't know where you're getting this idea that they're sabotaging voting machines. Can you provide me with a link?

It's possible that Trump knew that someone from Russia was gonna leak dirt on Podesta and the DNC and he was like "alright, but I shouldn't be hearing about this though" or something like that, but that's not even a crime or colluding.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

No there isn't. There is no evidence or reason to believe that they actually hacked the voting machines. None whatsoever.

voting records are not held inside voting machines you dumbshit stupid fucktard

[redbreegull]

god you actually understand so little it is just impossible to communicate with you

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I don't know where you're getting this idea that they're sabotaging voting machines. Can you provide me with a link?

It's possible that Trump knew that someone from Russia was gonna leak dirt Podesta and he was like "alright, but I shouldn't be hearing about this though" or something like that, but that's not even a crime or colluding.

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/

they are certainly attempting to, but they don't have to sabatage the machines, just the records of votes and furthermore if they can get people deleted from voter lists that also works

[fuzzyroes]

There's no evidence or any reason to believe that they were monkeying with the actual votes. That's the bottom line. If you guys wanna provide some piece with evidence that Trumps votes weren't legitimate then I'd be happy to look it over.

As far as I've studied, that isn't even something they're suspicious about as far as Trumps election win goes.

They're more concerned with how much the leaks happened to sway public opinion, but the leaks were all true.. So even if it was the Russians, they essentially did America a favor by exposing such blatant fixing.

[reprise85]

russia fucked with the election. the only question is how much did trump know about it without telling the fbi/cia

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

There's no evidence or any reason to believe that they were monkeying with the actual votes. That's the bottom line. If you guys wanna provide some piece with evidence that Trumps votes weren't legitimate then I'd be happy to look it over.

As far as I've studied, that isn't even something they're suspicious about as far as Trumps electorate college landslide went.

i linked an actual government report

[fuzzyroes]

That really is the irony here. If anyone interfered with the democratic process, it was Hillary and her team of goons.

It still boggles my mind that that doesn't create more of an outrage... Hell, I think if Bernie went up against Trump, he probably would've won... But no... The Deep-state made up their minds that Hillary must win. They screwed themselves, not Russia.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

i linked an actual government report

I'm not seeing what you consider to be pertinent evidence that the Russians doctored any votes.

[reprise85]

i agree he would have won and it's shitty what she did but that's not what we're talking about is it